Discussion in 'Current Affairs, News and Analysis' started by Fang_Farrier, Feb 16, 2006.
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Technically that's the end of Guy Fawkes Night then!
No more Che Guevara posters or tee shirts!
What will they do with Nelson Mandella??
Perhaps that should be rewritten as 'Glorification of unfashionable terrorism'?
(And Guy Fawkes' Night is safe since it glorifies the failure of the Plot)
Well we're keeping the Wallace monument!
Is that the one which looks like Mel Gibson?
Nah, it's a large tower just outside Stirling.
I think the statue that looks like Mel is at Falkirk
Does it apply to the French resistance (the Maquis) of WW2?
What about the Contras in Nicagaragua in the 1980s or any other "freedom fighters" who happen to be unfashionable....what about DUP support for Loyalists....
Will all those house ends in Ulster need to be painted over?
What about the whole marching season?
What a strange country we live in.
Talk about terrorism and you go to jail.
Actually partake in it and you get to be an MP and a few hundred grand of tax payers dosh.
Incidentally, didn't Cherie sympathise with the PLO?
MMMmmmm legal minefield here, after all one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. For example when the British controlled palestine in the 1940s there were a number of prominent Jewish 'terrorists' David Ben Gurian et al who later went on to become Israeli politicians and indeed leaders of the Kneset.
Who decides who the terrorists are, and who decides who the freedom fighters are. I suppose it depends which countries those people are carrying out the acts of terrorism/freedom and if that country in which the freedom fighter/terrorist lives is on HMG PLCs Christmas Card list.
I suppose in this instance, sympathy and uderstanding for Hammas suicide bombers is okay, as hubby Tony is 'spreading peace' in the Middle East.
I'm burning anything in my bookcase that mentions the SOE, I'm destroying all evidence that I ever visited Robben Island and from now on I'm formally denying the rightful existance of the United States of America - to be extra careful I am never drinking tea or going to Boston. Disneys cartoon version of Robin Hood is getting binned too, just in case the Gestapo notice it when they come into my house without a warrant to check it 'for tax purposes.'
Grey areas wherein I find myself torn between my loyalty to reality and my loyalty to this glorious socialist state: my respect on those who made the assassination attempt on Hitler, living in a parliamentary democracy resulting from The English Civil War, owning a Ninja costume, owning a copy of Red Dawn, my obviously ecstatic belief in the rightousness of our socialist brothers in Provisional Sinn Fein, it's cause and its place in Irish politics, an analysis I did on Heydrich's assassination (for JOTES or something), the fact that I thought an old lady I once met was 'lovely' despite the fact that she had been recruited during the war to join a network of lovely old ladies who would provide int and support to a wider organised resistance in the event of a German invasion, my fondness for Dad's Army. The list goes on.
When a nation has to bring in ill-conceived new laws to prohibit someone calling upon, or celebrating, the deaths of innocent people, there is something very very wrong. Were we failed by laws that have seemed adequate enough for centuries of strife, or were we failed by politicians looking to score MORI points.
My final area of concern is what I will tell my son in decades to come, if and when he sees a UK Government (less socialistically glorious than the present one) turn these laws onto the British people for its own gain and to its own agenda, and he tells me he's going back home to do something about it.
interesting viewpoint on Sinn Fein. Will they be locked up too along with Cherie?
That will be a first...."President B Liars wife in handcuff shocker"
I forget to mention one last point - a prediction. Within 6 months we will see labour try to push through 2 test cases - one will be an islamist and the other will probably be a loyalist from NI. If the cases aren't thrown out they will prove so problematic that the law will just sit on the statute books waiting someone nefarious enough to resurrect them and ammend them as they see fit.
Will this be illegal then? Might be slightly inflammatory if the new law means it had to come down!
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