Global warming may stop due to natural variation

#3
If global warming stops will:

The London congestion charge be abolished?

Will taxes for cars with higher carbon output be reuduced?

Will the council come and remove the microchip in my wheelie bin?

Will the cost of fuel come down to reasonable levels?

Can I increase my carbon footprint and sleep at night? (Not that I give a damn right now anyway).

Wear my polar bear jacket in public again?

And all other scheming ways to finger our purse in the name of global warming?
 
#4
Ballcocks! I've just bought a load of garden furniture, a massive bbq and huge bucket for beers in the hope itn was going to be like Ibiza around here.

I best start putting that earth back in the hole in my garden for my swimming pool too.

Lost the receipts too.
 
#6
...umm not really heretic. Note the change in the meedja from "global warming" to "climate change." These b*ggers have got all bases covered.
 
#8
Chicken little coming home to roost?
 
#9
Well, if you believe the climate doesn't change, you really are on par with a holocaust denier. What is difficult to concretely prove is that man is the cause, and denying that has caused many good men to be castigated. I have a picture in my head of Monbiot being spit roasted under patio heaters whilst being basted liberally with petroleum products.

I've said before on here that this is a geopolitical issue. Can we realistically control the problem? - No. Therefore resourses should be used to deal with the symtoms. Interestingly though, many of the green movements' claims that we need to be more efficient in the use of resourses, and particularly petroleum resourses are valid. Not that by using less we'll save the planet, but the reality that it will simply be too expensive.
 
#10
sanchauk said:
Well, if you believe the climate doesn't change, you really are on par with a holocaust denier. What is difficult to concretely prove is that man is the cause, and denying that has caused many good men to be castigated. I have a picture in my head of Monbiot being spit roasted under patio heaters whilst being basted liberally with petroleum products.

I've said before on here that this is a geopolitical issue. Can we realistically control the problem? - No. Therefore resourses should be used to deal with the symtoms. Interestingly though, many of the green movements' claims that we need to be more efficient in the use of resourses, and particularly petroleum resourses are valid. Not that by using less we'll save the planet, but the reality that it will simply be too expensive.
Completely agree with you.
 
#11
I agree sancha the climate does change it has been for the last 4 billion years it's the assumption that 200 years of industrial activity by man has doomed us all is what i was poking fun at. Though it isnt funny the way it is being used as a cash cow by mainly western governments
 
#12
Couldn't agree more. And it certainly ain't funny what the governments are doing! We're doing the wrong things for the wrong reasons, and until the lying stops I think we'll see even more excessive government manipulation to try to overcome increasing inertia from the public. This is our 21C window tax!
 

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#13
Of course it's our fault. In the same way the dinosaurs and mammoths caused the previous (and numerous) swings in global temperature through their immense carbon footprints. Have you seen the size of a people carrier built for a family of hairy elephants?

Mind you, if a T-Rex fart can't screw up an atmosphere I don't know what can.
 
#14
My head hurts from being fed bollox from politicians and scientists. Mans impact on climate change is negligable for reasons we all know. Now the climate isn't changing as predicted they are moving the goalposts to account for their dodgey ideas.
Whats more important is that my arse hurts where Gordon Brown has been reaching in and raping me for every fooking penny he can get. Now scientists are paving the way for a miraculous reprieve fron the disaster they have imagined we are still being porked for every penny based on lies and deciept. Nothing of the money stolen by Brown will actually make any difference to global fossil fuel emmisions anyway. Might buy some more bloody Mosquito nets I suppose.
I hope that Labour h=get a serious kicking at the local elections today, something needs to change in this country and it needs to change now.
Liars and thieves to a man, thats the politicians and the scientists being paid to produce bollox data to prove a bollox theory. I want a refund
 
#15
Im sad and do all this at uni. Yes humans have an impact on the climate but that alone could not trigger an iceage or mass extinctions. It would require lots of volcanic activity to produce lots of carbon to bock out sun etc. Its just a cash machine for governments because our impact is minimal when you consider places like China and India are producing massive amounts what impact can you hope to have by trying to reduce the x% we produce when you leave the bigger x% NICs produce. Ahh dont you love politicians.
 
#16
The politicians are one step ahead of you all. Realising that Global Warming was starting to be disproved they looked around for an alternative scare. Noticing that food supplies were beginning to fail they stumbled upon "Economic Cooling", this can be traced to lax personal control over our finances and so it is still our fault, we should hang our collective heads in shame and pay our now high taxes to enable the Government to feed all these starving people.

8O
 
#17
sanchauk said:
I have a picture in my head of Monbiot being spit roasted under patio heaters whilst being basted liberally with petroleum products.
Now there's a thought to make you smile! :D :D :D
 
#18
skivinstudent.lol said:
Im sad and do all this at uni. Yes humans have an impact on the climate but that alone could not trigger an iceage or mass extinctions. It would require lots of volcanic activity to produce lots of carbon to bock out sun etc.
So lots of carbon in the air will trigger an ice age now? Not global warming as was first stated? Which thoery are they teaching at uni atm?
 
#19
The misplaced cynicism around this subject really grips me. Global warming is a fact and the rapid acceleration of world temperatures over and above natural variation is driven by industrial and domestic pollution. The evidence for that is massive. It's the trends that are important not a blip of a few years against that trend in either direction - and the trend over 150 years continues to be up.

I used to be a climate change sceptic until the good lady did a Phd related to it. Having seen far too much evidence over the years I'm convinced it's not a con at all.

However Sanchauk has got to the heart of it imo; we can't stop it by changing the UK's behaviour so the main effort should be going into contingency planning to deal with the inevitable effects on us. I haven't seen anything to suggest that is being done in a meaningful way.

Trying to say it's all a big lie thought up by the taxman is a ridiculously simple approach, it's real enough but is being used as a revenue stream - and alienating the general population to boot - instead of approaching it as a serious issue.
 
#20
You say it is a fact. Global warming IS a fact but the causes you claim for it are hypothesis. Well here is a real fact. There was an Ice age. Then the earth started warming up again - long before we were around to cause it.

It is not our cynicism that is misplaced, it is your faith in unproven theories that is misplaced.
 

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