Giving prisoners new TVs is ‘good value for money’

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  1. Herald Scotland
    The Scottish Prison Service (SPS) is refusing to back down in the growing row over the supply of flat-screen televisions and DVD players to prisoners in their cells.

    As opposition MSPs denounced an initial SPS order for 1600 TVs for Scotland’s 8000 inmates, the Prison Service dug in its heels, insisting the purchase was good value for money.

    Around 1200 of the first batch of 19-inch sets are destined for new prisons at Low Moss and the maximum security facility at Shotts.

    The order for the widescreen TVs appeared in a tender document issued by the SPS last month.

    It was later amended to include built-in DVD players with the ability to play music CDs.

    With supermarkets selling such TVs for around £130, the total bill could be around £200,000.

    Despite mounting criticism, the SPS said it had no plans to change or abandon the order.

    “We are still going ahead with it,” said a spokesman. “We charge prisoners for them, so at the end of the day there’s no cost to the taxpayer.

    “We actually make money. They probably last five or six years and we get £1 a week [from each prisoner in payment], so it doesn’t take long to recoup the cost of the telly.”

    The spokesman said the specification had been changed to include built-in DVD players as prisoners currently had to buy these from the SPS to stop friends and relatives smuggling in contraband from models bought in shops.

    “The cost of getting them built-in is marginal.”

    TVs have been a feature of prison cells in Scotland since 1999. Access is at the discretion of prisoner governors, and the channels are supplied through a cable feed to restrict content.

    Giving prisoners new TVs is
     
  2. If the cons actually pay for them,I don't see the problem.Cheaper than a riot.
     
  3. How do they pay for them though? Is it from money "earned" from their privledge level for doing work or education, if so the taxpayer not only buys the TV set but pays the prisoner to pay the taxpayer back! Economics of the madhouse methinks!
     
  4. Do they pay for a TV licence for cell? Or is that another perk picked up by the taxpayer. [No tv in barrrack rooms in my day but I believe that Soldiers pay for each room?]
     
  5. Convicted Penal Slaves do not need TVs.

    They can have a film once a week in the socialising room, or outside in the recreation/phys area. When they arenn't asleep, eating or cleaning their block/room/clothes/self they should be spending every waking moment sifting thorugh garbage for recycling.

    To attone for their misdeeds.

    TV is for normal people, not scum.

    If they want money whilst in, then the relatives can give it to the warders for processing in to 'jail money'. It could be kept on a CHIP and PIN card that doubles as the Penal Slaves cell key (lets them in not out) and ID card.

    The only Telly they'd see is the one that their loved ones were broadcast on to for visits. VTC. Cutting down on the requirement for car parks, harmful emissions of loved ones coming to see their incarcerated miscreant loved ones and of course reducing (drastically) the means of smuggling.
     
  6. From a SA viewpoint, it seems that UK prisons are more like cheap accomadation, considering down here we have no benefits etc, getting arrested in ye old Britain sounds rather attractive.
     
  7. Biped

    Biped LE Book Reviewer

    Smack is good value for money for inmates too. Stops them rioting and there's no licence to think about. Also, if you want them to comply with a set of instructions, stop the smack supply until they comply.

    Better still, kill them.
     
  8. Nothing 'cheap' about prison accommodation. Many convicts have a much better standard of accommodation while in detention than they do when 'free'. When you actually think of it, it is fundamentally wrong.
     
  9. I disagree, they should not have a film once a week, they have no right to entertainment. They do not need money and do not need tv visits...or any visits. They should not have the fine food they currently get, instead they should get slops....and they should receive a weekly whipping.
     
  10. It only costs us £40,000 a year to keep each prisoner in the lap of luxury......What's another £130! *****
     
  11. If it really costed £40k a year per prisoner, nobody would go to prison and we'd still have the death penalty. Don't include capital costs or day to day running costs such as PO wages. Heating, lighting food and laundry are the additional cost per prisoner. £20 a week?

    As for restricting content, might I suggest OU programmes, Sky news ('cos its rubbish) and back to back re-runs of songs of praise and last of the summer wine. The prisons would quickly empty themselves through a combination of deterrence and suicide.
     

  12. I think instead of Ou programs, Sky news etc, they should be subjected to one James Blunt song 24/7...that would empty prisons a hell of a lot quicker.
     
  13. Yes i'm afraid it does cost that per prisoner per year. I was amazed when I moved from a Hospital to work in the prison service, the prisoners got much better food. As it's coming up to that time of year the Rib eye steak and lovely roast Turkey they got on Christmas day did surprise me. The Hospital I worked at the patients used to get sliced or minced Turkey roll.
    When the TV's were introduced in England the level of disturbances on a night reduced dramatically. These TV's i'm sure could have been sourced cheaper. I do tend to agree with some of what chocolate frog says and remember a busy convict is a happy convict. If they have time on their hands they make mischief. Sorting through stuff that could be recycled sounds like hard work that would be enjoyable.
     
  14. Oh and for the people that want to froth at the mouth the immigration detention centre I worked at the food budget was approx. double the amount per detainee per day than that of a prisoner. We did have to provide two types of curry per meal.
     
  15. Let them eat pork and have done with it.