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  1. The_Duke

    The_Duke LE Moderator

    From the AFPRB 12/13 report

    Office of Manpower Economics - AFPRB reports

    Territorial Army Commitment Bonus – Early Years
    We received a proposal from MOD on a Commitment Bonus, which would be paid to Direct Entrant Territorial Army (TA) Junior Officers, and ex-Regulars in the early years of their Reserve service. It would provide an initial payment of £2,000, followed by three staged annual payments of £1,000 to encourage recruitment and retention. This total incentive of £5,000 (before tax) is offered to those identified as critical to meeting MOD’s 2018 target of 30,000 fully trained TA Reservists. MOD acknowledges that current non-remunerative and remunerative measures have failed to recruit and retain sufficient levels of TA personnel, even before the ambitious 2018 target. It is expected to cost £17.6m over the next five years with the aim of having 22,500 deployable TA by 2015.

    MOD proposed to review the effectiveness of the policy with a review submitted to us during the 2015–16 round. While we are content to endorse the package, we would like regular updates on the impact of this measure on recruitment and retention, and we are prepared to revisit the issue before the next scheduled review if that should be necessary.

    Recommendation 12: We recommend that the Territorial Army Commitment Bonus – Early Years be implemented.
  2. No nothing for OR's/LE/PQO (TA)?
  3. The_Duke

    The_Duke LE Moderator

    ORs - Shortfall easier to remedy than Jnr officers. Ex Regs (assuming experience is relevant and recent) dramatically reduce the training bill.

    LEs - It is a retention bonus, not more money to keep the old and bold at the bar longer once they have finished writing on a rule using block capitals. Arguably we need to get rid of many of these once we get the DEs in and through the system for a few years.

    PQO - What is the shortfall? If it was that severe, they would have been included.
  4. Roughly equivalent to paying full bounty from Day 1, that'll help some graduates with paying off their student loans. And a nice top-up for the ex-Regulars' redundancy pay.

    Doesn't really address converting civvies into grunts, though, does it?
  5. ...and retention? Retaining ex-Regulars in green? And all recipients for just four years?
  6. The_Duke

    The_Duke LE Moderator

    Turning civvies into grunts is relatively easy, as long as the system supports the recruiting and training.

    4 years is probably about right. A decent enough return on investment but not so long as to scare people off.
  7. so they think an extra £5k over 4 years is going to improve the inflow of sacked Regulars into the TA ?

    Really ? Can I have what they're smoking please ;-)
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  8. Sounds like desperate measures. I'm not sure 5K over 4 years, before tax, is going to have them rushing in the doors.


  9. It's free money. What's not to like?
  10. I'd imagine that if they've been unable to find a job and the redundancy money is dwindling, the prospect of some extra cash would be very welcome. They might like it and stay for a while.
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  11. a very bare handful I suspect. And the instant a proper job pops up, they're gone.....
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  12. But some corps don't have an upstairs/downstairs trade/management model, absence of pinch point technical/high pay types has made them as useful as a chocolate fireguard. Those types bring in skills with them, training can't fix that (or the TA can't afford that amount of training time)
    An officers(/sgts) mess full of Tim nice but dims and/or cletus the yokel types only sorts the admin out - the corps main job still needs doing.
  13. The cynic in me says that this is exactly what the current government are counting on...
  14. The_Duke

    The_Duke LE Moderator

    So you can only exist if you recruit people who are already pre-trained, many of whom are "high pay" types?

    Not sure if £5k gross over 4 years is really going to solve that problem, is it?

  15. What about an incentive for ex stabs to re-join.