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Get those sidies up son!

#1
I wonder does the length of a soldiers side burns really matter?
Is it true theres something in Queens regs about sidies and what is it?
How many parades have you heard a sergant major go ape on some lad "does it hurt son,because im standing on your sideburns"
Obivously sporting a craig david would be taking the p**s. But how can having abit of facial hair have anything to do with the effectiveness of a squaddie.
I mean who really wants to have bedford wheel arch side burns.
 
#2
Don't know if it is in the regs but I always though it was yours if abouv the cheeks.

Always remember a medic from training , last saw him in 92 at the RAMC depot. Tiny wee bloke but had a face like a monkey with his sideburns joining his tash and eyebrows like a walruses tash.
 
#5
:D

theres nothing in queens regs about the length (as in down the way), purely that they have to be trimmed and the same length as the hair.

cant see a problem with them myself, i do like the old burns. but, you will always get the bull from the RSM however there are a few who will let it go

:lol:
 
#6
I was always under the impression that they could be as far down as the middle of the ear. But whilst on Telic 1, the badge got a right cob-on with one guy, and had chief clerk check Queen's Regs - she said they could go as far as the bottom of the ear! Needless to say the badge found some other way of getting at the guy!! She also said there was nothing in there about how short you can have your hair i.e what would constitute an illegal haircut.

Then again, perhaps she made it all up - she was a bit of a lazy cow.
 
#7
on op telic i found that a close cropped number 1 or 0 was by far the most practical and comfortable hairstyle. i wear this style anyway all the time. the head shed then decided that this was unbefitting for an officer, and my sidies which extend to below the lobe were also deemed illegal !
being a cantankerous swine i consulted QRs. the hair should be kept short and tidy. there is nothing about length of sidies, minimum length of hair etc. i stuck to my guns, and possibly by dint of my crown was left alone, and subsequently common sense was applied by the shed and rsm, also towards all the lads.
my advice is know the rules and regs and stand by your guns against ridiculous little odious men with more power than intelligence or common sense.
:twisted:
 
#8
With the current trend of quoting the "Human Rights Act", I feel it is breaking my right to freedom of expression. I'm sure a Civvy lawyer could run rings round the Army legal system on that one. And just what constitutes "reasonable length"?

After the passing of the Queen Mum (Gawd bless 'er) I told the CSM I had lowered my 'burns to half mast out of respect. Didn't really cut it.

I suppose the line must be drawn somewhere, corner of mouth to bottom of lobe sounds good.
 
#9
There is nothing in the queens regs about sidies!!

I reckon it's a jealousy thing!! you can grow a moustache so why not tidy sideburns!

8)
 
#10
is there any reason apart from personal prejudice and ingrained tradition why you cant have them, or indeed a full beard id kept tidy???

pioneer sergeants anyone ??????

or long hair, as long as its tidy and tiedback, or a shaven dome?

does it make you less of a soldier?

doing things merely because they look smart(to some) is a bollox attitude. doing things for a purpose that have as a side effect a smart look is an entirely different matter.
 
#14
An old RSM of mine once had the entire regiment on parade with their fingers in their ears - if your diggers showed below your finger then bingo! the xmas duties list was sorted in one morning

Mind you, i'd like to have a photo of that parade for a caption competition
 
#15
disneyworld said:
I wonder does the length of a soldiers side burns really matter?
Is it true theres something in Queens regs about sidies and what is it?
How many parades have you heard a sergant major go ape on some lad "does it hurt son,because im standing on your sideburns"
Obivously sporting a craig david would be taking the p**s. But how can having abit of facial hair have anything to do with the effectiveness of a squaddie.
I mean who really wants to have bedford wheel arch side burns.
Get a life you whining homo.
 
#16
How come its only the junior element ( and the occasional recently promoted tech) who whine about issues such as block jobs, accommodation, sidies, etc.

Fcuking gays. If you want long hair, then fcuk off back to civvy street. Now get a hair cut and a life.
 
#17
Two things spring to mind:

1. While teaching crows, the legal point of view was that while in uniform you do as you are told as it basically boils down to being part of your uniform. This is where that jewellry hair etc comes in. Can't remeber the exact quote but it is there.

2. Human rights act. Yes I know, but remember article 5, basically the collective has to show you respect for your right. BUT Article 6 states that you have to show your respect for the collective's rights also! (A Bit Star Trek) some clever chap at DMA, Netheravon spotted that one.
 
#19
I think that side burns don't really matter, although I personally don't have long ones. The stupidest reason I've ever heard was from the RSM at 11 Sigs "They effect the seal on your resperator so if you have long side burns you'll die"
 
#20
The full SP:

Queen's Regulations for the Army 1975 (Amendment No 26)

Chapter 5, Part 9 para 5.366


Hair:

Males. The hair of the head is to be kept well cut and trimmed, except where authority has been granted otherwise on religious grounds; style and colour (if not natural) is not to be of an exaggerated nature. If a moustache is worn, it is to be trimmed and not below the line of the lower lip. Beards and whiskers are only to be worn with authority, which will usually be granted only on medical or religious grounds, or where tradition permits. The appearance of the beard and whiskers is to be neat and tidy.

Females. The hair is to be neat and worn above the collar. Combs, grips etc., if worn, are to be plain and similar in colour to thehair. Style and colour (if not natural) is not to be of an exaggerated nature.
However:

ANNEX D TO CHAPTER 5
A GUIDE TO SUBJECTS TO BE INCLUDED IN UNIT STANDING ORDERS AND IN RULES FOR MESSES


22. Length and styles of hair.
This is what gives the RSM his/her authority to dictate hair style and length.

:)
 

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