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Germans "scientology a commercial cult" ban Tom Cruise..

Alsacien

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#1
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6240312.stm

Germany has banned the makers of Tom Cruise's new movie from filming at military sites in the country because the actor is a Scientologist.
The German defence ministry said Cruise has "publicly professed to being a member of the Scientology cult".

Scientology masquerades as a religion to make money, Germany said, but leaders of the church reject this.

Scientology has been monitored in Germany in the belief that its activities are "directed against the free democratic order" in the country.

Its status there as a commercial enterprise has prompted repeated protests from the organisation.

Stauffenberg's son Berthold told the Sueddeutsche Zeitung newspaper earlier this week that he objected to Cruise taking the role because of his involvement with Scientology.

"He should keep his hands off my father," Mr von Stauffenberg said.
 
#2
Scientology is almost as ridiculous as getting Tom Cruise to play von Stauffenberg in this movie in the first place.

Thetans can fcuk off.
 
#3
Scientology is one of the most ridiculous religions i have ever heard of. Watching Panarama the other month just confirmed this for me.

Basically you need a couple of quid in the bank to be a member, if you have a celebrity tag attached, all the better.

Tom Cruise being a scientologist would explain to me why hes such a knob.

Editted for my turd spelling
 
#4
Why can't we get legislation passed like this here in the States?
 

Alsacien

LE
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#5
Stephanie said:
Scientology is one of the most ridiculous religions i have ever heard of. Watching Panarama the othe rmonth just confirmed this for me.

Basically you need a couple of quid in the bank to be a member, if you have a celebrity tag attached, all the better.

Tom Cruise being a scientologist would explain to me why hes such a knob.
You used the "R" word - its a commercial cult, officially :wink:
 
#7
Von Stauffenberg was a Prussian Aristo , how the hell is Cruise suitable to play him?

It's the sort of role that a young Jurgen Von Prochnow should be playing.

Can't Hollywood find an actor like that?
 
#8
PartTimePongo said:
Von Stauffenberg was a Prussian Aristo , how the hell is Cruise suitable to play him?

It's the sort of role that a young Jurgen Von Prochnow should be playing.

Can't Hollywood find an actor like that?
May have been mentioned elsewhere, but wasn't von Stauffenberg well over 6 foot and shy an eye and a hand?
 

Alsacien

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#9
PartTimePongo said:
Von Stauffenberg was a Prussian Aristo , how the hell is Cruise suitable to play him?

It's the sort of role that a young Jurgen Von Prochnow should be playing.

Can't Hollywood find an actor like that?
That might bring a real danger of accidental authenticity......

German actors are either "Bad Guys" or are only allowed to be U-boat commanders wearing off-white rollneck jumpers.....
 
#10
Alsacien said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6240312.stm

Germany has banned the makers of Tom Cruise's new movie from filming at military sites in the country because the actor is a Scientologist.
The German defence ministry said Cruise has "publicly professed to being a member of the Scientology cult".

Scientology masquerades as a religion to make money, Germany said, but leaders of the church reject this.

Scientology has been monitored in Germany in the belief that its activities are "directed against the free democratic order" in the country.

Its status there as a commercial enterprise has prompted repeated protests from the organisation.

Stauffenberg's son Berthold told the Sueddeutsche Zeitung newspaper earlier this week that he objected to Cruise taking the role because of his involvement with Scientology.

"He should keep his hands off my father," Mr von Stauffenberg said.
I thought Cruise WASN'T gay?

The way the scientologists acted on Panaroma I wouldn't be surprised if scientologist 'agents' infiltrate this site with defensive waffle and stalk us all...
 

the_boy_syrup

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#11
devexwarrior said:
PartTimePongo said:
Von Stauffenberg was a Prussian Aristo , how the hell is Cruise suitable to play him?

It's the sort of role that a young Jurgen Von Prochnow should be playing.

Can't Hollywood find an actor like that?
May have been mentioned elsewhere, but wasn't von Stauffenberg well over 6 foot and shy an eye and a hand?
Wasn't he 6'2 and missing his right hand and 3 fingers on his left?
Also IIRC a devout Catholic (one of the reasons he felt uncomfortable with the nazis)
So I doubt he would want a 5'2 member of a cult that believes in most things that Catholics wouldn't touch with a barge pole
 
#12
devexwarrior wrote
May have been mentioned elsewhere, but wasn't von Stauffenberg well over 6 foot and shy an eye and a hand?
Don't worry either Cruise will be on stilts or they'll use lots of low camera angles and make the rest of the cast walk in trenches.
As for the other, I can offer the loan of a sharp stick and a chainsaw...
 
#14
Khyros said:
Why can't we get legislation passed like this here in the States?
Because some time ago, a few of your countrymen got together and said this:-

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Then there was some other stuff about the right to arm bears, not having to incriminate yourself and so on.

Oh - and let's not forget the little known third amendment that's never mentioned on TV courtroom dramas. It prohibits the government taking over private homes to use as barracks for soldiers. My granny would have loved that as her house was packed out with riotous squaddies for the duration of both WWI and WWII.

Anyway, back to the Scientologists. Your First Amendment guarantees freedon of religion. The price you pay for that is certifiable loons setting themselves up as the Messiah.

In return, you get to avoid the religious bloodbath we've had in much of Europe for the past 500 years. In the town where I live, there's a small monument to some folks who were burned alive for being Protestants. Further down the road there's another monument to a bloke who was beheaded later for not being a Protestant.

Religious bigotry and conflict survives to this day. Look at Ireland. Closer to home, I'm a Protestant. My wife was a Catholic. Some relatives wouldn't come to our wedding. Some relatives never spoke to us again after we got married.

Seems to me that a few celebrity nutters being parted from their cash is a small price to pay so you folks can avoid what goes on in other parts of the world in the name of religion.
 
#15
Stephanie said:
Tom Cruise being a scientologist would explain to me why hes such a knob.
Which is why I believe it would have been better to shoot him than ban him. I would have liken the jeermenns for that.
 
#16
Sigh... I know all that my ancient friend... problem is that crackpot cults take advantage of our laws to disguise themselves as legitimate religions. Take the yahoos protesting here at soldier's funerals... they are not a church by any means of the word, rather they are conducting a money making scam (over the top protests designed to illicit reactions leading to lucrative law suits) and hiding behind tax exempt status. Scientology might not be as obnoxious as the aformentioned group but they certainly are a business disguised as a faith.
 

Biped

LE
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#17
Scientology - what a load of c0ck.

The stages of membership of Scientology remind me of playing World of Warcraft, except you have to kill fewer demons. It's long, tedious, exceptionally boring to get to a level 70, got fcuk all to do with any form of reality at all, and you pay all the way.

Not that I play world of warcraft you understand, it's just what I've been told.
 
#18
I'm surprised that little fcuk Mel Gibson wasn't in the frame. If he is chosen I will gladly help with the authenticty angle namely:

Stretch him on the rack 'til he's the required length.

Remove eye.

Remove arm

Job's a good 'un.
 
#19
Khyros, I agree with your post.

There are so many groups/religions forming left, right and centre. Most are just down to money. These groups/religions such as scientology are going to keep growing though cos you got muppets like cruise (cant really say travolta cos never here him speak bout it, and remini is blatantly under its spell) promoting it on every given opportunity, how many of his fans have conformed to it?

As for the yahoos you talk about this thread says it all, and after watching the show, well, i was speechless.
 
#20
Khyros said:
Sigh... I know all that my ancient friend... problem is that crackpot cults take advantage of our laws to disguise themselves as legitimate religions. Take the yahoos protesting here at soldier's funerals... they are not a church by any means of the word, rather they are conducting a money making scam (over the top protests designed to illicit reactions leading to lucrative law suits) and hiding behind tax exempt status. Scientology might not be as obnoxious as the aformentioned group but they certainly are a business disguised as a faith.
You're right Khyros. I hadn't considered that some of these so-called religions are not as harmless as others.

I saw a TV documentary here in England about the funeral protestors. Are they the ones who say dead soldiers are god's punishment of America for legalising homosexuality? Bizzare and very, very offensive to behave like that at any funeral, let alone that of someone killed on active service.

It was remarkable to see the dignity with which the mourners conducted themselves in the face of such provocation. Even passers by restricted themselves to verbal abuse of the protestors.

Perhaps the lack of religious conflict in America is in spite of the Constitution rather than because of it.
 

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