German troops may face Jews -as part of mission for peace

#2
I don't really see a problem. I'm sure the Israelis, will be happier with the Germans then Troops from Egypt, Syria, Turky, (Or especially) Iran or some other mideast country. Or even worse, some third world outfit like Pakistan, like the UN generally, uses.
 
#3
I heard a German general on the radio yesterday saying the Germans would not allow their troops to take up a peacekeeping role that might bring them into direct confrontation with the IDF. He said they would most likely take up border patrol duties on the Lebanon/Syria border.
 
#4
“We have to do this, not in spite of the Holocaust, but because of it,” Werner Sonne, a leading commentator, said on German state television. “If German troops guard Israel’s borders, they are there to protect Jewish lives. Frankly, there has never been a better reason to bring in soldiers in German uniform
Wtf kind of mentality is that?

Are they going to flagellate themselves for the rest of time over WW2?

Is the Holocaust going to define every aspect of their foreign policy?

What a bunch of pussies!

They shouldnt go, they're biased.
 
#5
Most likely.

Not because the Germans have quite an efficient and professional army...
 
#6
Why bring this up? The German Army of today is not the Army of Hitlers Germany. It is not as if they have an ITD on Gassing Jews is it?

FFS, if we apply this to other countries, I hope the Italians aren't going, after all they coluded with the Jews and killed Christ!!!! This is just drivel to provoke a reaction. And by gott it got one!!
 
#7
Just reported on the Today Programme on Radio 4 that the UN is very worried as no country has given an express commitment to put trooops into Lebannon. Looks like the whole thing might fall apart if it is not sorted soon. The Frogs are very worried about ROE.
 
#8
short-fuse said:
Just reported on the Today Programme on Radio 4 that the UN is very worried as no country has given an express commitment to put trooops into Lebannon. Looks like the whole thing might fall apart if it is not sorted soon. The Frogs are very worried about ROE.
Probably nobody wants to expose own troops under Israeli strikes.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1154525882124&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

The IDF will have to resume operations in Lebanon if the expanded United Nations force being assembled does not fulfill its obligation to dismantle Hizbullah, an official in the Prime Minister's Office warned on Tuesday.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1154525882141&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

Despite the cease-fire between Israel and Hizbullah, the IDF is allowed to destroy Syrian weapons convoys that cross into Lebanon to reach Hizbullah guerrillas, a top IDF officer said Tuesday.
Israeli military dreams about a revenge.
 
#9
chocolate_frog said:
Why bring this up? The German Army of today is not the Army of Hitlers Germany. It is not as if they have an ITD on Gassing Jews is it?
Well said,

You cannot blame the German Army today for something that was carried out years before most of their troops were born.

Unfortunatley, many still tar the German Army today as still being Hitlers Army.
 
#10
Mad_Moriarty said:
..Unfortunatley, many still tar the German Army today as still being Hitlers Army.
Chocolate Frog is right - some are looking for a reaction.

I think that eyebrows have been raised more about this by the wider world and the Germans then general opinion in Israel.
 
#11
As of 14 August AFP was reporting the following:

France (possible lead nation of the force, they currently provide the force commander) around 4000 troops

Italy around 3000 troops

Malaysia around 1000 troops

Russia - considering possibibility of sending troops

Spain - 700 troops

Germany - 3000 troops

Belgium, Indonesia, Morocoo, Turkey, Portugal and Thailand - numbers not clear

Not willing to contribute - Australia (maybe a very small contigent), Britain (too overstretched), India (currently provides 672 troops to UNIFIL), Norway (too early) and US (ally of Israel).


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There would be nothing to stop the Germans being deployed in the northern part of the AO, if the Israeli had a problem with them.

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The UN can only deploy troops from countries that are willing to contribute troops (eg Pakistan) and with the agreement of the parties to a conflict.
 
#12
Kofi Anan recently stated that it wasnt up to the UN to disarm Hizbollah. The Lebanese Army isnt going to disarm Hizbollah. In this environment who wants their troops to become human shields for Hizbollah ? A picture that says it all for me. French troops outside Tyre.

 
#13
Taz_786 said:
“We have to do this, not in spite of the Holocaust, but because of it,” Werner Sonne, a leading commentator, said on German state television. “If German troops guard Israel’s borders, they are there to protect Jewish lives. Frankly, there has never been a better reason to bring in soldiers in German uniform
Wtf kind of mentality is that?

Are they going to flagellate themselves for the rest of time over WW2?

Is the Holocaust going to define every aspect of their foreign policy?

What a bunch of pussies!

They shouldnt go, they're biased.
F*ckin hell man, they need to get a grip on reality! Reminds me of Harry Enfields "I feel I must apologise for my countries actions during ze war" character. If they do take on this mission with that kind of mentality, then they are going to be of no use to anyone.
 
#14
Poor bloody Toms get stuck up like so many Fig 11s just so the politicians and UN big wigs can feel they have made a difference.

Volunteers for the Lebanon - quick march! Oh...that'll be..erm..oo-er...Mr Annan, Mr Annan sir!
 
#15
FFS if they get deployed they will have travelled further East than the Africa Corp,the Feldmarshall will be happy.
 
#16
irlsgt said:
Not willing to contribute - Australia (maybe a very small contigent), Britain (too overstretched), India (currently provides 672 troops to UNIFIL), Norway (too early) and US (ally of Israel).
Ah...Is this official? PTP and I have a small wager running on this. 8)
 
#17
My qustion is, who will command this 'Force?' I would hate to be under the direct command of the UN. Or some Third world armys General, etc.

I would guess that if the French send any troops, they will be from the Legion.

I agree with some others here, I think this Truce is doomed to fail!
 
#18
I think a lot of countries are reluctant to commit troops due to the fact that Israel, if they feel like it, will bomb the shite out of wherever they want and if this includes casualties inflicted on any UN forces in the area, then tough. Israel felt 'threatened' etc etc.

Mind you, if Hezbollah continue to poke the dog with a big stick, then sooner or later the dog is going to turn around and rip its face off. My main worry is that the dog won't give a shite what it hurts in its efforts to get to the raghead with a stick!!!

I personally don't see what the fuss is with sending German troops in as peacekeepers. Worked with a couple of them last year out in the Gulf and they were ultra professional and had a very wicked/dry sense of humour-good lads. People need to move on. A lot of these German troops' parents probably weren't even born until after WW2....
 
#19
the_matelot:

Very true! I agree!

Although, the other side will also, be trying to provoke such incidents.
 
#20
I don't see the problem I think the Israelis would see more the problem of Hun troops peace keeping, a lot of those reservists have itchy trigger fingers after not being allowed to continue onto the road to Damacus.
 

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