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German President invited to Cenotaph.

#62
Nevertheless. Try that with an educated Pole and you'll get short shrift. Just don't try it with a pretty one or you won't get laid.
Just as that I'm not keen on Polish girls then... ;)

As for the educated Pole bit, I did that at University with a chap who is now a quite prominent barrister. My arguments were obviously better, because he switched from History to Politics in his Second Year.
 

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Over a year ago I raised this as a question of when and if it would ever be suitable to invite our former enemies. I was assured by the posters responding that it was a bad idea and should never happen. Thinking on now, should we invite the Japanese as our WW1 Allies and the Italians too?
 
#66
Dresden memorial perhaps?
I'm sure the RAF could muster a Squadron or two for a flypast to mark the occasion
The UK recognised Dresden insofar the silversmith son of one of the RAF aircraft crew which was involved in Dresden's destruction used 18th century techniques to replicate the Cross which adorned the historic church and it was paid for partly by the House of Windsor ( to a cynic the taxpayer) and the UK Government
A small but none the less meaningful outstretching of wellbeing. As far as I recall, RAF staff attended the final installation and I seem to recall it all went well.

I suppose you'd have no objection to a few replicated V1's & Doodlebugs shooting over the East End of London....just for old time's sake? Fair's fair eh?
Get a grip man.
 
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Over a year ago I raised this as a question of when and if it would ever be suitable to invite our former enemies. I was assured by the posters responding that it was a bad idea and should never happen. Thinking on now, should we invite the Japanese as our WW1 Allies and the Italians too?
An interesting conundrum - especially considering Honda, Toyota, Nissan and Toshiba factories and a few others too...
 
#69
Over a year ago I raised this as a question of when and if it would ever be suitable to invite our former enemies. I was assured by the posters responding that it was a bad idea and should never happen. Thinking on now, should we invite the Japanese as our WW1 Allies and the Italians too?

Personally I feel it is politicising the event, not what its meant to be about
 

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#70
Over a year ago I raised this as a question of when and if it would ever be suitable to invite our former enemies. I was assured by the posters responding that it was a bad idea and should never happen. Thinking on now, should we invite the Japanese as our WW1 Allies and the Italians too?
Re the Japanese I would say no purely due to second half unpleasantness, if it's still going on for the 150th anniversary then yes. Although I fear by then it will be called Celebrity Unknown Soldier X Factor on Ice.
 
#71
As an aside for the specific subject of whether or not a German dignitary should be invited to the remberance ceremony, should we have a punishment for the leaking of government documents by walking in / out of Downing Street in full view of the media?

A cynic may say that it’s a deliberate tactic of governments in the 21st century to test the water
 
#72
Sounds like a good idea.
Surely one of the best ways to honour the lads who were slaughted on both sides of the front line/trenches is for both sides to be friends now.

At the time this was termed as the war to end all wars.
 
#74
I don't see a particular problem with the German President being there. Certainly more appropriate than a bunch of fat lads who've raided the dressing up box who seem to barge in on the most inappropriate occasions, including the (re) burial a couple of years back of some recently discovered Great War casualties from my Regiment.

 
#75
Don't forget the Poles, Czechs, Slovaks, Belgians, Dutch, Danes and Norwegians; they all did their bit too, in many cases with no real support from those that they left behind at home. I would hope that in 2020 at the 80th anniversary of the Battle of Britain that the Poles, Czechs and Slovaks are all invited to join the flypast. 'For your freedom and ours.' H_M.
Or the Irish who were slaughtered at the Somme, Gallipoli and Passchendaele
 
#78
Over a year ago I raised this as a question of when and if it would ever be suitable to invite our former enemies. I was assured by the posters responding that it was a bad idea and should never happen. Thinking on now, should we invite the Japanese as our WW1 Allies and the Italians too?
Well we did pay the Italians in the first lot......... AND either the Bulgarians or the Romanians, can't remember which
 
#79
I think that it is safe to say that we don't regard the Irish as a foreign contingent - they were, to a man, one of us...
I meant that if contingents of the Australian, New Zealand, Indian and Canadian armed forces are present then the Irish Defence Force should be also....

Could the Irish regimental colours in Windsor make an appearance in a hypothetical foreign visit?
 
#80
I meant that if contingents of the Australian, New Zealand, Indian and Canadian armed forces are present then the Irish Defence Force should be also....

Could the Irish regimental colours in Windsor make an appearance in a hypothetical foreign visit?
The Irish Defence Forces did not exist in WWI and they sat out WWII; in both wars, soldiers from Ireland and the Irish Free State served in the British Army, Royal Navy and Royal Air Force. Sadly, I don't think that the IDF are in any way the successors of, for example, the Connaught Rangers or Dublin Fusiliers.
 
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