'German militants' killed in Pakistan drone attack.

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  1. spike7451

    spike7451 RIP

    That's eight more gone to hell!

    BBC News - 'German militants' killed in Pakistan drone attack

  2. Aljazeera
    A suspected US drone strike has killed eight fighters in northwest Pakistan, with Pakistani intelligence officials saying that at least five of them were Germans.
    They also said that the fighters killed in the attack in Mir Ali, North Waziristan, on Monday were members of the Jihad Islami group and the Germans were of Turkish origin.
    Details of the incident could not be independently verified and both the US and German governments have yet to comment on the strike.
    Al Jazeera's Kamal Hyder, reporting from the Pakistan capital Islamabad, said at least three women were also killed in the raid. There are reports of some children being killed too, he said.
    "What is raising the alarm bells here is that despite the fact that there may be some evidence to suggest that these people are indeed militants, Germans in this case ... there is, of course, this apprehension that most of the time these strikes are taking place not caring about the civilian casualties."

    'No big surprise'
    Matthias Gebauer, the chief correspondent for German news magazine Der Spiegel, told Al Jazeera that while finding verified information on the attack had been difficult, news that German citizens may be among those killed in the strike "did not come as a big surprise".
    "Because we know that about a couple of dozen German Islamists went from Germany to the Pakistani tribal belt, especially to Mir Ali," Gebauer said.
    There are reports that al-Qaeda's leadership, increasingly restrained by missile strikes from US drones in northwest Pakistan, prizes such "home-grown" recruits as they have Western passports.
    Pakistan's northwest region is seen by the US as a training ground for fighters. It has been hit with 21 drone attacks in September alone, the highest number in a single month.
    Besides al-Qaeda fighters, the CIA has been trying to eliminate leaders of the Haqqani network, an Afghan Taliban faction operating out of North Waziristan.

    Terror threat
    Monday's attack came a day after the US and the UK warned of an increased risk of terrorist attacks in Europe.
    The alerts about possible attacks in Europe highlight concern that growing numbers of fighters are going from the West to remote war zones for training with al-Qaeda.
    The immediate trigger for Sunday's travel alerts was intelligence about a plot against European targets reportedly originating with a group of individuals in northern Pakistan, some of them believed to be European citizens.
    Few details of the conspiracy are known. But the plot appears to be of the kind that Western officials believe poses the most significant danger - the use of so-called self-radicalised individuals with no previous record of extremism.
    'Germans killed' in US drone strike - Central & South Asia - Al Jazeera English
  3. What is the legal position here then? Is visiting a " tribal leader" now an automatic death penalty offense?

    Can the state now just kill people it doesn't like or suspect of being terrorists. That could make the checkin line at airports a bit more interesting.

    Or is it just because they are in some foriegn place far away that the law doesn't count?

    I am not saying these people were innocent victims but the idea of the state just killing people seems wrong to me.

    I thought state sponsered assisination/terrorism (which is what this is) was a bad thing?
  4. I'd like to think the last two words on their lips was "Achtung Spitfeur".
  5. News from The Associated Press

    *If the Germans would pass their particulars directly to the CIA, then perhaps the problem might be resolved.

  6. OldSnowy

    OldSnowy LE Moderator Book Reviewer

    This is, without a doubt my Post Of The Week.

  7. Surely it would have been 'Achtung, Hellfeur!'

  8. A Yorkshire German? Whatever next?
  9. Thats all we need, "Heil Osama", bleedin nutters.
  10. I wonder if the US Drones could be persuaded to brass up Bradford ?
  11. Sod the legal position mate!
  12. I hope the drones carry silver bullets judging by the eyebrows on the chap in the middle.