German drill sergeants on trial for abuse

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  1. A court case over the biggest scandal in the German army's post-war history opened yesterday when 18 training officials went on trial for abusing dozens of recruits.

    More than 160 trainees were allegedly given electric shocks, beatings and cigarette burns at barracks in Coesfeld, western Germany. Describing one night operation in 2004, Wolfgang Schweer, the senior prosecutor said, "the drill sergeants of the company ambushed, overwhelmed and chained up the cadets." They had bags put over their heads, were sprayed with water and given electric shocks using a field radio, Mr Schweer said.

    The court in Münster heard how during a hostage-taking exercise recruits were blindfolded, tied up and "interrogated". Some were sprayed with water down their trousers and mocked as "bedwetters". Others were given cigarette burns, or doused with water and told it was petrol, then threatened with being set alight.

    The former company captain, identified only as 34-year old Ingo S, said the recruits could back out by giving a codeword. But Schweer said the word, "Tiffy", was associated in the company with being a weakling so was "very seldom" used.

    Ingo S has said the practices were common in the army. The drill sergeants claim to have undergone specialist training and said they wanted to give their recruits a similar experience to toughen them up.

    The scandal came to light when a junior soldier described his experience to members of his new unit. One of his superiors was so shocked he passed the information to the public prosecution office.

    Those on trial, all aged between 25 and 34, were initially suspended but 14 have been reinstated. All have served either in Afghanistan or the Balkans. If convicted they face up to 10 years' jail.,,2038020,00.html
  2. Bet they were only obeying orders.
  3. B_AND_T

    B_AND_T LE Book Reviewer

    I pay good money for that!
  4. Christ we had worse than that as an RM recruit!!!
  5. I believe such conduct is classed as mere foreplay in the RM Old bean.
  6. See that's German discipline for you... any other army and it would have been on you-tube first.

    Besides... surely the biggest scandal in the German army's post-war history was its war history.
  7. How dare they call them bedwetters! Let the little darlings out. How many of them come from the same gene pool as the gang-bangers mentioned in the other threads?
  8. Ve haf vays of making you gut soldaten!

    Seriously, is this sort of behaviour why German soldiers are not allowed out at night in Afghanistan ? They are all afraid of the dark due to their experiences in training. Ahh!

    They are all right though the Bosch. I'd rather have the 'box-headed' Erichs on our side than against us - again.
  9. "given electric shocks using a field radio"

    was it a lesson with Bowman?
  10. Electric shocks with the field radio - they had a full charge in the battery? Now that's German effciency for you. Be interesting to see how this one goes. From my limited knowledge of the way they work, (from several years ago I may add!) this would be frontpage news for weeks in some of the daily rags out there. Someone with a better understanding of the bundeswehr might be able to enlighten me, but hasn't there been a considerable change in their ethos, and attitudes toward them from the German populace, especially since they become involved in ops, from Kosovo through to the war of terror?
  11. priceless :thumleft: