German Army neo nazi plot

#41
Thor's Hammer...LMAO talk about desperate. Who told you that?
I won't even go into what that rhetoric will lead to, whatever next.

And in what timeline precisely did "ring wing" become evil, Her in lies the problem across the western world.
Conservatives are being tarred with the old Nazi brush, and the opposition wonder why their support is diminishing further, clue, the policies were not popular and nobody likes the outcome. End of.

To me, blurring the lines between far-right and right is a marker for delusional left-wing politics on the back foot, it's their way or it's the dummy out of the pram and anybody disagreeing is now a Nazi.
In fact, It's not politics, It's ideological immaturity. Their attempt to redefine the political compass to their benefit in their political defence is going to end in greater disappointment as history has shown time and time again.

I too cannot find any other reports on this.
Is it "Fake news" or politically inflated propaganda?
It was not a diatribe about conservatism being confused with neo-nazi's, or nazi's, I do know the difference. Opa was a good party member, spent his war years as an officer in Berlin, a couple of uncles were HJ (one joined the FFL afterwards) and aunts who were BDM.

Moving on, my 'laughable' bit of 'int' came from a German Oberst Leutnant a few years ago, he was and still is in a position to know such things regarding German neo's.

There is a clothing brand in Germany that is popular with the neo's, it is called Thor Steinar -

THOR STEINAR® Onlineshop

Authoritarian Outfitters

There are more articles on the subject out there.

When I saw the hammer pendant I already knew Thor Steinar was a the neo's chosen designer brand, a bit like skin heads in the UK used to wear Doc's, Ben Sherman shirts and braces. Knowing that neo's wear the Steinar brand when I saw the lad's wearing the hammer pendant I asked my mate, the knowledgeable LtCol. He told me it was a fashion thing for the troops that he hoped would soon vanish as the hammer pendant had picked up with the neo's because of the loose Thor association through the Thor Steinar brand.

So there you have it.
 
#42
Sadly, I can believe this. I bumped into a few some while ago who were wearing the Thor hammer pendant - Mjolinor. The pendant/symbol has previously had some vague links to right wing groups.

They had a scandal some years ago when the war on terror kicked off and some bright spark put Afrika Korps symbols on the side of some vehicles when they were, I believe, in Oman.

It'll hurt them as they have been having recruitment and retention problems for a while added to the fact that the Regt had never achieved full strength anyway.
Mjöllnir and other associated symbols have associations with the far right through those in the far right who choose to (mis)use them as such, and nothing else.

It is one of the symbols of the Ásatrú faith, and therefore by definition is religious not political.

While Hitler dabbled in neo-Germanic Paganism, he was against anyone putting any religion or faith above the NSDAP ideology. For this reason, German revivalist Friedrich Marby was denounced by Himmler's occultist Karl Willigut.

He spent 99 months in Dachau for his beliefs. Friedrich Marby
 
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#43
Mjöllnir and other associated symbols have associations with the far right through those in the far right who choose to (mis)use them as such, and nothing else.

It is one of the symbols of the Ásatrú faith, and therefore by definition is religious not political.

While Hitler dabbled in neo-Germanic Paganism, he was against anyone putting any religion or faith above the NSDAP ideology. For this reason, German revivalist Freidrich Marby was denounced by Himmler's occultist Karl Willigut.

He spent 99 months in Dachau for his beliefs. Freidrich Marby
You lot are overthinking and reading too much into this. I doubt if any 18/19 year old bovver boot wearing neo's can read, never mind have read, or considered religious or political symbology. It is just something that the numpty thug's wear to show they are 'one of the lads'. A bit like buying the same hat a fave movie star wore to some tree-hugging event, or certain people wearing red ties now because their hero Trump wears one, or all para's back in the days of Aldershot wearing Freeman, Hardy and Willis dessie's.
 
#44
You lot are overthinking and reading too much into this. I doubt if any 18/19 year old bovver boot wearing neo's can read, never mind have read, or considered religious or political symbology. It is just something that the numpty thug's wear to show they are 'one of the lads'. A bit like buying the same hat a fave movie star wore to some tree-hugging event, or certain people wearing red ties now because their hero Trump wears one, or all para's back in the days of Aldershot wearing Freeman, Hardy and Willis dessie's.
I know multiple people who wear Mjolnirs. None of them are XRW.
 
#45
You lot are overthinking and reading too much into this. I doubt if any 18/19 year old bovver boot wearing neo's can read, never mind have read, or considered religious or political symbology. It is just something that the numpty thug's wear to show they are 'one of the lads'. A bit like buying the same hat a fave movie star wore to some tree-hugging event, or certain people wearing red ties now because their hero Trump wears one, or all para's back in the days of Aldershot wearing Freeman, Hardy and Willis dessie's.
I understand your point, but a Mjöllnir pendant is not a clear indication of extreme right-wing leanings by itself. I wear one for a start. If these people are wearing it to show ancestral pride, that, in my opinion is fine. Even for Germans.
 
#46
Afghanistan I believe
various PMC''s used SS Deaths heads in afghan and regular US infantry and SF used it in Iraq too, most famously Chris Kyle. I really dont think any of them were secret nazi's, I think they just thought it was a cool, warrior symbol, like Thors hammer.

Likewise the word nazi is overused and misapplied. How does wanting to murder politicians and refugees make you a national socialist?
 
#48
various PMC''s used SS Deaths heads in afghan and regular US infantry and SF used it in Iraq too, most famously Chris Kyle. I really dont think any of them were secret nazi's, I think they just thought it was a cool, warrior symbol, like Thors hammer.

Likewise the word nazi is overused and misapplied. How does wanting to murder politicians and refugees make you a national socialist?
Again, the Totenkopf predates the Nazis and the SS; it was a symbol of the Prussian Hussars long before. Hence the Panzer Korps also used it as a symbol.
 
#49
It was not a diatribe about conservatism being confused with neo-nazi's, or nazi's, I do know the difference. Opa was a good party member, spent his war years as an officer in Berlin, a couple of uncles were HJ (one joined the FFL afterwards) and aunts who were BDM.

Moving on, my 'laughable' bit of 'int' came from a German Oberst Leutnant a few years ago, he was and still is in a position to know such things regarding German neo's.

There is a clothing brand in Germany that is popular with the neo's, it is called Thor Steinar -

THOR STEINAR® Onlineshop

Authoritarian Outfitters

There are more articles on the subject out there.

When I saw the hammer pendant I already knew Thor Steinar was a the neo's chosen designer brand, a bit like skin heads in the UK used to wear Doc's, Ben Sherman shirts and braces. Knowing that neo's wear the Steinar brand when I saw the lad's wearing the hammer pendant I asked my mate, the knowledgeable LtCol. He told me it was a fashion thing for the troops that he hoped would soon vanish as the hammer pendant had picked up with the neo's because of the loose Thor association through the Thor Steinar brand.

So there you have it.
Thanks for clearing that up.
I will wear a Thor's hammer necklace now to annoy Germans ;)

Speaking of German's, or in my case German descendants, my mates in Canada were wearing those necklaces back in the 90's along with various other heavy metal related stuff, I should have known.....The city was Kitchener, formerly known as New Berlin.

Bloody Germans!

Seriously, It's convenient that all this nazi bollocks is coming up after most of the people who had to live through and deal with them are now dead. Politically convenient that is. They will be attempting to rewrite WW2 history next....oh wait.
Playing the Nazi card used to be called comedy...coincidence the comedy disappeared right before the political weaponization became acceptable along with it's big brother Marxism and it's bastard offspring called political correctness.

Bloody Germans!
 
#50
They had an interesting little lot sent down I think I have mentioned on other threads, The OldSchool Society.

Far-Right group face trial in Germany for planning nail bomb attack against refugee shelter

What is most interesting is how the German authorities managed to get around the encryption on WhatsApp (or maybe they just attacked the handset).

Genuinely don't know, so if anyone's German is better than mine (and mine "ist nicht sehr gutt") and can pop up a linked, I would be grateful.
It is unlikely that they were able to decrypt whatsapp, as you say that probably forced the owner to just unlock his phone or he might have had biometric security enabled (don't use face detectors, iris scanner or fingerprints to lock your devices - they can just hold the phone in front of you to unlock it and they are allowed to take your fingerprints anyway so can use a transfer to unlock that).
 
#51
You lot are overthinking and reading too much into this. I doubt if any 18/19 year old bovver boot wearing neo's can read, never mind have read, or considered religious or political symbology. It is just something that the numpty thug's wear to show they are 'one of the lads'. A bit like buying the same hat a fave movie star wore to some tree-hugging event, or certain people wearing red ties now because their hero Trump wears one, or all para's back in the days of Aldershot wearing Freeman, Hardy and Willis dessie's.
Not everyone wearing Thors Hammer is a Nazi. it is worn by Metalheads, Rockers, Neuheiden or Ásatru, Goths, some people of the alternative scene and someone a guy gets one gifted by a very nice, lovely and dirty lady . So most people wearing Thors Hammer are not Nazis.
 
#52
It is unlikely that they were able to decrypt whatsapp, as you say that probably forced the owner to just unlock his phone or he might have had biometric security enabled (don't use face detectors, iris scanner or fingerprints to lock your devices - they can just hold the phone in front of you to unlock it and they are allowed to take your fingerprints anyway so can use a transfer to unlock that).
Bit unlikely in covert stages of an enquiry?

I would have just thought to recruit an informant.
 
#53
This smacks of English flag = EDL or NF and all that bollux in the 90s. To the extent that sensitive types found its display offensive.
Some chaps wearing a Thor's hammer round their necks are XRW ? Get away with yer!
 
#54
There was one t-shirt that resulted in slapped wrists: Sept. 2009 fuel tankers carrying petrol and derv were hijacked by Terry just short of Kundus, the German base. Two of the crew had their throats cut and a third was taken. The hijacked tankers got bogged down during a river bed crossing and an air-strike was called in - some thought it was unnecessary and that resulted in a bit of a slap later. What pi55ed off the ueber-PC politicians though was when the 'unsensitive' soldiers had a t-shirt knocked out that basically read Thou Shalt Not Steal.





Versions are still available on @mazon.de
They are a must have.
 
#55
This smacks of English flag = EDL or NF and all that bollux in the 90s. To the extent that sensitive types found its display offensive.
Some chaps wearing a Thor's hammer round their necks are XRW ? Get away with yer!
Handy hint:
Wimmin wearing a double-bit axe pendant are best avoided.
 
#56
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About the time these two were strutting about Europe
Ok so one was a socialist and the other was a fascist both of whose regimes are dead. Neither were Conservative/libertarian.

Did you not understand I was talking about "today"? Our politics ALWAYS has a right and left wing, with the best ground being the middle ie compromise (slightly missing these days I have to say).
Of course for too long we have been leaning too far left hence the ******* mess we are in.
Were you suggesting we have always had Nazis in government in the form of right wing?


If so, I have to disagree, As much as some wish it to be and as much as Tarquin the Teacher has tried to brainwash the kids, Right-wing is NOT nazi. If one made the political compass from a line into a circle, The far-left and far-right would be right beside each other, where they belong, at the opposite side of every sane and critically thinking person.

Anyways, back on track.

These are still doing the rounds:




Oh dear, Is that the "Grampa never made it this far east", can't deny there is some black humour in there, even if it is 70 years late.

I think the palm tree is geographically incorrect, Should be a poppy plant (adjusts anorak) haha

Bloody Germans!
 
#57
Not everyone wearing Thors Hammer is a Nazi. it is worn by Metalheads, Rockers, Neuheiden or Ásatru, Goths, some people of the alternative scene and someone a guy gets one gifted by a very nice, lovely and dirty lady . So most people wearing Thors Hammer are not Nazis.
I know, my daughter has one because she is a fan of the marvel Avengers films and particulary like the musculariness of the chap who plays Thor. Mind you, she also has a silver parachute closing pin that I gave her when she was around 5.

Pssst......any chance I could meet the dirty lady next march.
 
#58
I know multiple people who wear Mjolnirs. None of them are XRW.
I understand your point, but a Mjöllnir pendant is not a clear indication of extreme right-wing leanings by itself. I wear one for a start. If these people are wearing it to show ancestral pride, that, in my opinion is fine. Even for Germans.
Yup, a bit like not everyone who wears Doc Martens is a skinhead and in Germany not everyone who wears Thor Steinar is a neo nazi.
 
#59
various PMC''s used SS Deaths heads in afghan and regular US infantry and SF used it in Iraq too, most famously Chris Kyle. I really dont think any of them were secret nazi's, I think they just thought it was a cool, warrior symbol, like Thors hammer.

Likewise the word nazi is overused and misapplied. How does wanting to murder politicians and refugees make you a national socialist?
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