George Orwell and the BBC

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  1. It seems that George Orwell has been deemed "too left wing" for the BBC (he says, stifling an immense guffaw).

    George Orwell is 'too Left-wing’ for a statue, BBC tells Joan Bakewell - Telegraph

    Two things stick in my craw, as a licence payer.

    1/. That Joan Bakewell (for whom the word "Tart" was invented) has been made a Baroness.

    2/. That Mark Thompson has decided on your behalf that the greatest essay writer of his generation - regardless of one's political hue - is not worthy of permanent record on BBC premises.

    Off Thompson goes to a multi-million job at the New York Times. Another champagne socialist.

    But what he leaves behind is an utterly shallow, quivering, cowardly (and I hate the word coward, but for once, it fits) legacy about the BBC's relationship with the Daily Wail and the government.

    What a cock.

    There have been two great essayists in the last 100 years. George Orwell was one of them. The other was Christopher Hitchens.

    But why should the outgoing and shortly to be disgustingly rich ex Director General arise above the ignorant masses, such as myself, as well as the judgement of history and pontificate about whose statue should be on "BBC premises"?

    Orwell is an icon.

    The decision reflects the terrible problem at the heart of the BBC. Orwell is judged by his politics. Not just by that but in PR terms what his political legacy might mean for the Corporation.

    The fact that Orwell was a tremendous talent as a writer takes the back seat.

    In other words, in these difficult times, you could be George Orwell, William Shakespeare, John Milton or Andy McNab, but unless you fit the political zeitgeist, you can **** off.
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  2. Mark Thompson is a wholly owned subsiduarry of New Labour, an organisation that thinks 1984 is an instruction manual rather than a novel. That might have something to do with it.
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  3. LancePrivateJones

    LancePrivateJones LE Book Reviewer

    I watched the BBC series 'The Edge of Darkness' (1985) the other night and whilst I enjoyed seeing it again it was sad to see how much the BBC has deteriorated since those days comparatively speaking.

    Some people regard Alasdair Milne as the last proper DG of the BBC and many years after he was sacked in 1987 he had this to say about the corporation,"Too many dumb, dumb, dumb cookery and gardening shows . . . I have nothing against women. I've worked with them all my life. It just seems to me that the television service has largely been run by women for the last four to five years and they don't seem to have done a great job of work."

    I think he was predicting the advent of Political Correctness which infests the BBC and has diluted the real creative thinking that made the Beeb a world leader.

    The BBC is knackered and has been for a long time.
  4. How can anyone possibly be too left wing for the BBC?
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  5. Hats off LPJ.

    But the Beeb being prejudiced about writers of the Left is a new one on me.

    Talent is talent. Unless you're so cowered by your fear of government that you can't recognise a superb essayist when you see one.

    Am sure Dave wouldn't mind a statue of Orwell. And I take the 1984 point.

    The sad truth is that, as anyone inside the Corporation with tell/bore you, the light Lefty orthodoxy has drained exquisite talent away from the place, both in front of and behind the cameras and microphones.

    What is left is largely shit.

    Viz. Ben Brown, once a talented foreign correspondent, reduced to two weeks of "and look at the fantastic Olympic park behind me" drivel, while the studio struggled to light him properly.

    Viz. Endless "Newsround" features on the Six and the Ten without even a glimpse of John Craven.

    I'll place my bet now that most of the younger set who run the BBC's 'Newsgathering' enterprise don't even have a clue who Orwell was without bimbling a Wiki search.

    Actually I know that as a fact.
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  6. Today a BBC News reporter standing atop the monastery at Mont Saint-Michel referred to how "the English attacked these ramparts in antiquity"...

    Also, I swear if the BBC News readers don't stop making those asinine little comments to one another between stories or when introducing the weather I am going to be moved to violence.
  7. They could simply put up a monument to Eric Blair, after all, that's who he was. When people ask who Eric Blair is tell them that if they have to ask, they might have heard of him as George Orwell.
  8. LancePrivateJones

    LancePrivateJones LE Book Reviewer

    Just look at the primary grammatical howlers on their website, historical research also appears to be non existent.

    Poor old Lord Reith would die all over again if he knew what they had done to his beloved BBC.


    Proper BBC Director General.
  9. Sad isn't it? I watched all three series of Secret Army recently. Couldn't believe how well constructed it was.
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  10. LancePrivateJones

    LancePrivateJones LE Book Reviewer

    I think that we both saw the best years of the old BBC, in a way I feel lucky but it is saddening to witness the parody that the corporation has become.

    George Orwell was a BBC man for God's sake, one of the most famous BBC people ever if you don't count Guy Burgess.
  11. I really do resent paying the licence fee for such ill informed and inane drivel spouted by people who are not actually much better informed than most people i know. Time for the B.B.C. to be consigned to its own room 101, save us all a few quid, it neither informs or entertains any better or worse than the other stations now.
  12. I thought Orwell was very left, until he did some time in Spain during the Civil War, when the scales fell from his eyes? Surely 1984 and Animal Farm are not considered leftist polemics.
  13. Fifty Orwell Essays On this very subject.

    great to see a thread on this prophetic writer. Too true, reflective, self effacing for the yaboo establishment and lazy press.

    Benjamin, Vidal, Woolf et al worthy of attention also.
  14. Eric Arthur Blair's (and why use his pen name?) problem, for the BBC, is not his left-wingedness, indeed his opposition to the WW2 alliance with Stalin shows he wasn't that far left. He opposed totalitarianism in all its forms regardless of the doctrine applied. The real problem is that Orwell simply wasn't gay, in fact he tried very hard to be a womaniser, but being a right ugly bastard with less charm than a pit bull rolling in fresh pig shit, he got blown out mostly.

    They can hardly stick a statue of him in the centre of their gay totalitarian media empire now can they?
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  15. All true, but very flawed in his application of being a leftie:

    Inviting a shop-floor Trade Unionist into his home and then telling the poor bloke off for not "dressing for dinner".


    Turning up to a "do" with other affluent lefties (who were dressed in tail-coats and cocktail gowns, but committed to discussing socialist politics nonetheless) and dressing in a smelly donkey jacket.