General Election 2019

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Gout Man

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No, not at all, although Andrew Neil's suggestion hinted at a moral obligation perhaps.
Ta for your reply but my sarcasm didn't come over in my post! :)

It seems to me that the only people getting excited about this are the media - they seem to believe themselves to be important. Personally, I (and I suspect a great deal of the electorate) don't actually care whether he turns up or not. What I am seeing though is a person who is refusing to be bullied by the media and that is a plus in my book.
 
Ta for your reply but my sarcasm didn't come over in my post! :)

It seems to me that the only people getting excited about this are the media - they seem to believe themselves to be important. Personally, I (and I suspect a great deal of the electorate) don't actually care whether he turns up or not. What I am seeing though is a person who is refusing to be bullied by the media and that is a plus in my book.
Mine too. I think some serious questions need to be asked here as well. Press freedom is all well and good but do we really want them to be the self-appointed judge and jury of our future political leaders?

This is especially true when they themselves exhibit blatant political bias. If I were Boris, I’d go on the attack with Neill about this - it is an entirety valid question, given that the BBC are an unelected body...
 

Toppet

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In the last month, the BBC has received over 10,000 complaints of political bias against the main parties during the GE run up and interviews. Of those, some 54% have complained about anti-Tory bias and 46% of anti-Labour bias.
I see that as a good thing - it's probably broadly central then. Could you share the source so I can throw it at some Momentum friends who think the BBC is the comms mouthpiece of the Tories?
I personally think the BBC so-called comedy shows are a disgrace with their oh so right on Lefty views. HIGNFY as biased as Mock the Week and any so-called panel show which gives voice to these people.
I dont actually know any right-leaning comedians.
 

ugly

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Brillo Neil is now some sort of celebrity interviewer, a demi god amongst mortals, how the feck did our standards sink so low that such an oily oik is now seen as a super version of Parky? It wasn't 5 years ago I couldn't turn a page in the Eye without him being ridiculed
 
I see that as a good thing - it's probably broadly central then. Could you share the source so I can throw it at some Momentum friends who think the BBC is the comms mouthpiece of the Tories?

I dont actually know any right-leaning comedians.
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Slightly, just very slightly
 
I see that as a good thing - it's probably broadly central then. Could you share the source so I can throw it at some Momentum friends who think the BBC is the comms mouthpiece of the Tories?

I dont actually know any right-leaning comedians.
Story ran in the Times but it's under a paywall. Also the Guardian but daren't put that on Arrse as the fanatics will jump all over any Guardian story as being biased. If it were in the Mail or Telegraph it would be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but.

So here's the same thing from City AM

Of course, you could always look at the Mirror and Labour sites which accuse the BBC of anti-Labour bias or, alternatively, the BestforBritain and Briefingforbrexit sites which accuse the BBC of anti-Tory bias.

You pays yer money and you takes yer choice.
 
Down here, concerned worthies clubbed together to raise funding for a 'Night Bus' for the dossers.
Local bus firm loaned them a double decker. Bus fitted out with a kitchen and shower, food, wash items, bedding and towels laid on, rest area downstairs, wifi, and upstairs converted to a dorm.

Bus duly parked up on its first night and dossers welcomed to come use it by the excited gooders.

Next day? Gooders come to restock the bus for the next night - The Horror! Someone vandalised the bus! Stole all the fittings! Its must be the locals who had expressed their unhappiness at a DosserBus® parked on their streets.

More money raised, the bus refitted and once more deployed… same again, bus wrecked, all the fixings ripped out… except, this time there were witnesses.

It was the Dossers looting the bus in a scene reminiscent of the scene with the Antonov in Lord of War.

remember kiddies, 99% of dossers are dossers because they are lazy and stupid. And now the Gooders have to find the money to pay back the bus company for the refitting of their vandalised bus.
The Antonov example alongside your dossers, are demonstrations of societies without trust... In the case of the dossers, they have had it drummed into them, that nobody really cares about the individual and this nice bus might not be around in six months and better to get a larger slice of the pie now, or enjoy wrecking something before someone else does....

Charity focuses on the material or immediate emotional needs, but anyone from a working class estate knows the fallen tend to be those with a spirit which is so damaged, that they have zero trust in anyone and those helping them, are seen as having ulterior motivations and consequently exploitable.

So far as I can see Nationalism and Religion, are the only two proven ways to build a society. All the other ways are clever marketing that have turned the world to s**t. None of the political parties offer much in the way of restoring social capital, though the tories do at least give it a nod when talking of the past.
 
The point of free this and that amongst differing groups is to create division whilst appearing benevolent. Something in which the EU is particularly well versed.
Of course it is.... Socialism has a lot of attractions to the intelligent. It offers a science/evidence base to its arguments of inequality. What its really doing is exactly what you identify i.e. divide with a slide rule.

What has changed in socialism is it used to be based on class and the worker. Now the socialism, is more a form of graduate elitism, which argues their path to righteousness is change delivered by them for the many and I might add very little explanation of how they will force the many to change to become more like them.
 

Wordsmith

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I disagree. UKIP is a basket case. It's a very different fringe party now. He left, along with others, when it was clear that it was going bad. TBP isn't a racist party. Labour and BNP (who approved of Corbyn) are the ones who have been or are being investigated for racism. Who do Labour leavers vote for if they won't vote conservative? Plaid Cymru, SNP and Lib Dems are Remain parties. TBP and SDP are the only real options other than holding their noses and voting Conservative.
The TBP vote is being squeezed down to nothing by Brexit supporting voters worrying Magic Grandpa will get in if they vote TBP.

Farage would have done well to have accepted the Tory party's offer to put up straw candidates in the 40 constituencies TBP had the best chance of winning. Farage's ego wouldn't let him do that - and without focusing TBP resources on the most winnable seats he may end up without any seats.

Wordsmith
 
Ta for your reply but my sarcasm didn't come over in my post! :)

It seems to me that the only people getting excited about this are the media - they seem to believe themselves to be important. Personally, I (and I suspect a great deal of the electorate) don't actually care whether he turns up or not. What I am seeing though is a person who is refusing to be bullied by the media and that is a plus in my book.
Bang on mate! - The media and all its talking heads need an interview so they ve got something to talk about. Very few voters will change their vote if the interview went ahead, good or bad for bojo, and it is therefore pretty unimportant in the grand scheme of things - it is pretty obvious that AN will just muller him on his shagging around and general untrustworthiness but thats not new news to anyone and already well factored in - Jezza and Sturgeon were different because they thought they had nothing to lose and everything to gain, sadly for them, they were wrong and were absolutely destroyed on their lies and performance in post. BoJo is already in post and accountable so he has everything to lose and nothing to gain so would be a complete eejit to take the risk.
 
The TBP vote is being squeezed down to nothing by Brexit supporting voters worrying Magic Grandpa will get in if they vote TBP.

Farage would have done well to have accepted the Tory party's offer to put up straw candidates in the 40 constituencies TBP had the best chance of winning. Farage's ego wouldn't let him do that - and without focusing TBP resources on the most winnable seats he may end up without any seats.

Wordsmith
? - as far as I am aware it is the Conservatives who refused to stand down some of their candidates in areas where they cannot win (a slack handfull in the north) and the BP can. NF thought he had done a reciprical deal with BoJo and stood down 300 odd of his BP candidates but BoJo stiffed him. I dont know what the situation is in those Labour areas but would be amazed if the Tories have a bigger vote share than the BP - so, whilst it is NF getting accused of risking a majority there is a pretty strong counter argument that is is actual the Tories allowing remainers to win
 

Gout Man

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I think The Conservatives should start to use this quote as to why they had to go down the route of austerity.

The UK wasn’t ruined because socialism didn’t work. It was ruined because socialism worked.

Any doubt see Venezuela.
 
And finally confirmation from BJ. Fair play to him. Right back at Brillo , good call.

 
And finally confirmation from BJ. Fair play to him. Right back at Brillo , good call.

I suppose, if the BBC are really determined to get a Neill interview, they could switch him with Nick Robinson for tonight's debate (since the fact that Boris is still appearing in a BBC debate actually shoots Brillo's fox)
 

Wordsmith

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Bang on mate! - The media and all its talking heads need an interview so they ve got something to talk about.
It has been commented that the 'me, me' me' aspect of many of the media interviews these day is the overweening desire of the interviewer to be the person that asks the killer question that changes the outcome of the election. Resulting in crap rather than informative interviews.

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