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We’d have to agree to disagree on that. Certainly worthy of comment to the extent that Johnson is the only one who hasn’t (yet) agreed but as AN went on to say, Johnson is compelled by no law to appear on any media platform.

There was no need for the slightly petulant near sneering monologue from AN. We know he hasn’t agreed to appear and we are able to draw our own conclusions from that. We don’t need less than subtle steering from the BBC or from AN.

He isn’t the first politician to say no to such a tv show, he won’t be the last and after the disgraceful performance by Marr last Sunday, who could really blame him.

Politicians of all stripes only agree to these 'debates' if they think it will serve them well and/or harm their opponents.
So far, Boris has tended to prefer interviewing last. I still maintain that he will attend the interview, but only if his team either see him losing votes as a result of not doing, or calculate that he no longer has anything to lose by appearing. It is noticeable that he now has a bouncy "new" message that even the strongly pro-Remain Evening Standard seemed to like.

Going last also has the advantage in political debate that you can shoot down those who have gone before you, but they have limited opportunities to fire back, especially with polling day looming.
 
I agree with what you say. However as AN pointed out the leaders have been interviewed for a couple of decades now. The Marr show I can’t comment on as I never watch it due to the fact that I honestly can’t stand the man and so won’t spoil my Sunday mornings.
I’d like to see Boris up against AN just to see how he answers some of the more critical questions. I have a couple.

I read today that Boris has promised tax cuts, how is he going to afford those cuts on top of all the spending he has promised?

The nursing figures don’t add up it’s actually an extra 30,000 why not say that instead of messaging the figures to 50,000.

Will you do something about the extra 8 million people who we know of that have come here since Blair came to power and stop this figure from going up and up and up? We can’t cope, our services can’t cope and our infrastructure can’t cope.

Why can’t we train our own doctors and nurses builders and engineers?

I’m still voting for Boris not that it will make any difference where I live but at least I’ll be able to sleep at night.
I'm sure we could train far more medical students in this country, if only they would accept GP duties for say 10 years in exchange for free training, no student loans etc.

Face facts, you're not all going to be heart surgeons or cancer specialists but there's a hell of a lot you could give in return.
 

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I'm sure we could train far more medical students in this country, if only they would accept GP duties for say 10 years in exchange for free training, no student loans etc.

Face facts, you're not all going to be heart surgeons or cancer specialists but there's a hell of a lot you could give in return.
There is enormous support for this in medical circles so I am told (by a chap who used to be o n the board of a NW Hospital Trust)


his view was 6 years return of service, but the thing that would really make a difference, he said, would be an ability to direct where folks went during that time.
 
No, he'll either be trying to rationalise why he's lectured us on the financial dangers of Brexit for years on end and then chosen to vote for John McDonnell as Chancellor or else trying to rationalise why a vote for 'ignore democracy' Swinson is actually a celebration of universal suffrage and the right of the people to choose.

On the plus side, he'll finally have something to apologise for....
Oh, he'll bang a good, solid, spoiled vote.
 
There is enormous support for this in medical circles so I am told (by a chap who used to be o n the board of a NW Hospital Trust)


his view was 6 years return of service, but the thing that would really make a difference, he said, would be an ability to direct where folks went during that time.
In the 1950's , the Norwegians had a programme whereby their medical students would be trained in the UK but in return had to do a similar time in the public sector post graduation.
 
In the best interests of the BBC political impartiality we have come to rely on, Andrew Neill got busy with a bit of Boris Johnson character assassination after the Farage interview.
if I were Boris, I’d simply ignore him.

The public really don’t give a stuff. The on,y ’interview’ that matters is the ballot box,
 

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if I were Boris, I’d simply ignore him.

The public really don’t give a stuff. The on,y ’interview’ that matters is the ballot box,
But the beeb really have their teeth i to it now. Top of the radio news earlier this morning.

An object lesson in " world class journalism".
 
Want a glimpse of the UK under Magic Grandpa ..have a look at this. France is in chaos due to strikes.

 
But the beeb really have their teeth i to it now. Top of the radio news earlier this morning.

An object lesson in " world class journalism".
Agreed, and they are again starting to make it all about them. So far, there is no evidence that by not appearing Boris is a) failing to get his message out (although as a whole, the Tories could be doing more) and b) that he is yet losing potential votes because of it..
 

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This time next week we will be waking up to a new parliament and hopefully a strong Tory majority with Boris as PM.

As I’m a no good layabout I’ll be having an afternoon kip on Thursday and then staying up into the early hours watching the results come in.
Actually getting excited now. Do I need therapy:???:
 
Agreed, and they are again starting to make it all about them. So far, there is no evidence that by not appearing Boris is a) failing to get his message out (although as a whole, the Tories could be doing more) and b) that he is yet losing potential votes because of it..
This could be a calculation BJ & his team are making. The program gets between 750,000 to 1 million viewers IIRC & at a guess the sort of person who watches it will already know which way they are voting so why put yourself to the sword?

The other factor is as you say, the MSM, in this case the BBC are making it all about them & people are generally mistrustful of MSM, I seem to recall a recent survey suggesting a large % think the BBC are biased & all TV news/political programs suffer from this hubris where they have seemed to lose sight of actually reporting fact & turn it into opinion pieces, depending on the particular journalists bent. It has probably always been thus, thinking back to the likes of John Pilger, it just wasn't 24/7 as we have now & the constant spectacle of each channel trying to out do each other.

Journalists have an awful lot to answer for, they rightly, have great freedoms in the UK, but with that should come serious responsibility, which I don't believe they always exercise.

Personally I care not if BJ does the program or not & he could turn up naked with a carnation protruding rom his back end for all I care. Of the choices on offer he & the Tories are the only rational option.
 
This time next week we will be waking up to a new parliament and hopefully a strong Tory majority with Boris as PM.

As I’m a no good layabout I’ll be having an afternoon kip on Thursday and then staying up into the early hours watching the results come in.
Actually getting excited now. Do I need therapy:???:
You need to get out of your basha and go vote!!!
 

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