General Election 2019 - Conservative with Majority

After all the nasty dirty downright scumbag behavior of the pro-ind movement the last time I would be of the opinion to let them go and F**k them but then I think about the 50 % that dont want it by reason that they cant or have no means getting to a polling station. Those are the people I feel sorry for, wee birney will deliver them into poverty and her party will crumble when the reality of going it alone sinks in. North sea oil ha ha ha ha you fools,uk dont even own it anymore.
'It's a SLUM!' Fed up residents SHAME Nicola Sturgeon's 'ghetto' constituency
It sounds like they need independence from her. (Article from 2017. Things may have changed since and pigs might fly)
 

Tyk

LE
After all the nasty dirty downright scumbag behavior of the pro-ind movement the last time I would be of the opinion to let them go and F**k them but then I think about the 50 % that dont want it by reason that they cant or have no means getting to a polling station. Those are the people I feel sorry for, wee birney will deliver them into poverty and her party will crumble when the reality of going it alone sinks in. North sea oil ha ha ha ha you fools,uk dont even own it anymore.
I was working for the MoD in Corsham during the Indyref, plenty of Porridge eaters on the Military and Civ sides working on my projects and they about all professed a desire to vote no, the overwhelming opinion was also if the whole of the UK was involved in the vote then Scotland would have been independent the evening of the vote.
Admittedly my sample size wasn't that big, only 150 or so and we tended to chat about it in the pub, at mess dining outs which for some bewildering reason I got invited to and over meals in the canteen so a lot of bull would have been involved, but I'm sure most that had a vote exercised it, I certainly signed off enough chits for those requesting leave to go and vote, I assume the rest had postals like I do, tricky to vote in a UK Election from Brussels!.

I do wonder what Boris' Government will do about the agitation for a rerun of Indyref, on the one hand it would be abysmal press them presiding over a breakup of the Union, on the other being shot of those troublesome priests SNP bastards and the drain on the exchequer would probably be rather nice. That said I was part of a study of what it would cost and the effort it would take to move the Faslane facilities and it was pretty eye watering. The other departments with Scottish presences would be pretty big numbers, but not compared to what you'd have to build for the boats and the missiles and relocate the lot.

I still contend that what the SNP really want is extreme devolution while remaining part of the UK and on the HM Treasury gravy train, going properly independent would scare the living daylights out of anyone with a few functional braincells.
 

Dicky Ticker

War Hero
I haven't looked at the actual constituencies that SNP won, but I would put it down to less of a love of the SNP and more of a hatred for the Tories (Maggie, poll tax etc} and Labour.

Which is why I am at a complete lost that three seats around the Moray area continue to vote Tory, and why Edinburgh South stayed Labour. Having lived in both these areas it is beyond me why.
 

NI-EX-MEDIC

War Hero
I haven't looked at the actual constituencies that SNP won, but I would put it down to less of a love of the SNP and more of a hatred for the Tories (Maggie, poll tax etc} and Labour.

Which is why I am at a complete lost that three seats around the Moray area continue to vote Tory, and why Edinburgh South stayed Labour. Having lived in both these areas it is beyond me why.
Much as I try to understand the porridge wogs I just cant work them out. The SW would be more supporting of yes, predominately catholic and it would appear anti-british but it is extremly well represented in terms of recruitment to the armed services.
 
I was curious if there was any legal challenge the rest of the UK could mount to make them stop using sterling. Apparently the answer is 'no but it won't matter,
No need for any legal challenge. Scotland can print Sterling under '' Licence from the BoE ''

That licence can be revoked at any time.

Of course Scotland could keep printing Sterling, however, it would not be recognised or underwritten by the BoE.
 
No need for any legal challenge. Scotland can print Sterling under '' Licence from the BoE ''
Pedant hat on.............they're not "UK Sterling", they are "Scottish Banknotes".....a different commodity. Nor are Scottish Banknotes legal tender in the narrow, legal sense (although they are, obviously, legal currency). English/Welsh/NI (i.e. standard) banknotes are legal tender.

Scottish banknotes are approved by the UK Parliament in Westminster, not by our PW friends.
 
Now for the Boris Johnson revolution — PM to wield axe in radical cabinet reshuffle

Article in The Times on what Boris' New World Order looks like. Highlights include:

Enshrining in law the government’s commitment to boost NHS spending by £33.9bn by 2023-24 — the first time a government has made a spending commitment legally binding over several years. An extra £78bn is being earmarked to transform transport in the north of England with a blitz of new roads, bridges and buses.

Setting up a department for borders and immigration separate from the Home Office to improve security and the operation of the visa system after Brexit

Merging the Department for International Trade with the business department to create a powerful outfit that can do trade deals with the US, Japan and Australia while transforming the economy in the north of England

Merging the Foreign Office and the Department for International Development to help co-ordinate Britain’s aid budget with foreign policy goals

Splitting energy and climate change from the business department again.
At the moment it's no more than a manifesto, and we know how reliable those are...on the other hand, their manifesto was a bit thin and its a big lump of clarity on what they propose to accomplish. What's interesting is the weight they attach to securing the Northern vote for the future - it sounds as though Boris is taking the "you've lent us your votes" piece pretty seriously. The left will no doubt call it bribery; I'd like to see some results before I call it anything but as a good-faith plan it has potential. With the present Tory majority he can do more or less what he likes...let's see the extent to which he follows through.
 
Pedant hat on.............they're not "UK Sterling", they are "Scottish Banknotes".....a different commodity.
That is why I said

Scotland can print Sterling under '' Licence from the BoE ''
I will concede that perhaps I should have worded it as '' Print Scottish Banknotes in £ Sterling, under licence from the BoE and under the Fiscal Constraints set out by the BoE / Westminster ''
 
Scotland could, if it wanted, use anything as its own internal currency, whether that be turnips, cattle or its own printed banknotes. It becomes a problem when they want to trade outside their country - do other countries recognise their currency and accept it as legitimate. It would have to be acceptable to the international money markets. Sterling is so Scotland could use UK currency, ie Bank of England banknotes and that in itself wouldn't be an issue. The point to remember is that even though Scotland could use Sterling, it would not, as a foreign country, be able to set any fiscal policy over the currency. If it is dependant on another country for its fiscal policy then it's not a truly independent country.
scotland could adopt this fine currency

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The EU is just a convenient 'excuse' for the SNP in their drive for independence. It's not a case of "we're a small independent nation, heavily in debt, with few natural resources and we've just hacked off our biggest trading partner", it'll be a case of "we're part of the big boy's club".

History teaches us how the EU treats small nations. The Scots may not like Westminster rule, I suspect it's a lot more benevolent that EU rule would be.

Wordsmith
look west to Ireland.... heros to zeros on the result of a UK GE

little Leo Veradkars already been bent over by the EU, and bracing himself for the royal reaming from Brussels
 

ugly

LE
Moderator
Interestingly, their coins are valid on the mainland, as they are identical to ours. They do still use pound notes alongside pound coins, though, the relics.
There is nothing to stop you accepting CI notes, the banks usually will honour them as they will £20 notes which are purple died during ATM robberies as they would rather take them out of circulation
 
Hopefully, in the near future, all CV's will automatically have all clips from social media attached to them.

Forever....
most employers now do a social media search on prospective employees.
 
Sorry I'm late, time zones and all that and I'm just catching up with all the posts from yesterday. I did notice a bunch or someones supporters gathering in London proclaiming that Boris was "not my president..." and wondered if the speaker of the house has promised to impeach him yet?

Or is that another country? I get confused, so much appears to be a bit deja vu like and sounds like we've been here before, a bit like the American version of the office and our version of the office only one was slightly funny and the other was just cringeworthy....
 
A multi-tier system then, unlike the common one used by the EU? You will need Brexit to happen first. How does that map to the Roman Empire analogy?
I'm sort of taking Brexit as a given after Thursday. I'm not sure what Roman Empire analogy you're referring to, if the split to East and West I'd say none, because the empire was an autocratic military dictatorship whose main problem was invasion by hostile forces and the UK isn't.

The idea isn't quite a joke, but it also isn't a running proposition any more than manning the whole of the public service with 'conscripts' from the private sector, or replacing the house of Lords with a National Jury of 500 selected as part of their national service for two years at random. A chap called Robert Crampton was writing about the election in The Times a few days back and he made the very pertinent point that we should complain less about politicians lying because we don't want to hear the truth, and certainly wouldn't vote for it. His two most pertinent examples were payment for care for the elderly and low paid foreign workers.
 

ugly

LE
Moderator
Low paid workers are subsidised by middle income taxpayers thanks to Gordon Brown’s tax credits allowing businesses to offer crap wages that uk residents won’t work for but immigrants think are great especially when topped up by taxpayers like me!
This needs to end and will force a wages race in the attempt to find staff!
 
.... and now the repercussions begin ... squeaky bum time at the BBC I think ... I wondered why on Friday R4 was somewhat lacking in senior Tory contribution .... from that source which may not be named ...

Boris Johnson is considering a move to decriminalise non-payment of the BBC licence fee in a move likely to further worsen relations between Number 10 and the broadcaster.

The Prime Minister hinted during the general election campaign that he wanted to scrap the licence fee as he questioned its long term viability.

And fresh after winning a massive Tory majority, Mr Johnson has instructed aides to undertake a review to look at whether people should still be prosecuted for failing to pay the £154.50 annual levy.

It comes after it was claimed that Downing Street has effectively banned ministers from appearing on BBC Radio 4's Today programme because of concerns about alleged pro-EU bias.

The Tories did not put anybody up to go on the BBC's flagship morning news show on Friday or yesterday, with a boycott expected to remain in place unless there is a noticeable change in approach
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.... reap as ye shall sow .

ETA .... now being flagged up on The Telegraph ..... No 10 has BBC licence fee in its sights as it steps up feud over alleged bias .
 
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I have a cousin who works for the NHS in one of those 60k per year jobs, her husband is a university lecturer on 100k per year and she put the most cringeworthy post on facebook on friday morning about how her world had ended. As much as I do not like my youngest sisters views and her Guardian reading mates I am happy to report that she ripped the cousin a new ******** on all things Jeremy and momentum and this turned into the bitchfest of the year but the outcome was good as my little sister (the minx) had screengrabbed lots of posts that said champagne socialist cousin had made ove the past few weeks and put her to silent.
The university lecturer must be pretty senior to be on £100k pa.
 

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