General Election 2019 - Conservative with Majority

Robme

LE
Just a few points on the NHS, now that that ‘Nasty‘ PMBJ is running the ship.
I am sure we are all aware that the Marxist Muppet, spouted a whole load of bol-locks that the Tories are now going to sell off the NHS?
1. The Tories have been running the NHS, for far longer than the Marxist Muppets ever did. And it still a government funded well loved and respected part of the Country, free at the point of use.
2. Given that the NHS, is doing things that were never on the horizon when it was formed (IVF, Tourists, Tattoo removal, fat barsteward sliming service and so on) it’s a wonder that we still haven’t introduced an work place insurance service like the French, Germans etc. No. Not like the stupid Americans who have over 4million children uninsured, and quite frankly don’t give a fook either. That’s not insurance that’s blackmail.
3. Throwing ever increasing amounts at the NHS, is a waste of money. They can’t use properly the money they currently get. Shortages of medical staff is an artificial construct, created by the various managements of NHS trusts, so as to extract shed loads of money for the NHS, in particular the salaries and bonuses of the 1st tier management staff. Incidentally so as to correct something labour didn’t say, they didn’t say that the NHS would work a 4 day week, they were saying that employees would eventually work a 32hr working week, they are not the samething.
4. What is urgently required is a slash and burning of the management structure of the service. When you have something like 2.5 managers for every nurse there is something wrong with that. Jobsworth nobodies creating and justifying their own posts, is never a good sign of a well run service. Look at the MOD, and something like 1 admiral for every ship we own, or the numbers of Army Staff officers lording over their ever decreasing areas of concern, or senior RAF bods gazing at their navels. Doesn’t go down well with the Toms of all three services, who actually make the Armed Forces work, no matter what head sheds think.
5. The NHS, needs drastically to commit to a nationwide education service, pointing out to the chavs and chavets of our nation, that stuffing that 4th pucker pie into ones pottymouth without any consideration isn’t going to do you any good in the long run. Incidentally I had my Gall bladder removed past September, and the ward was full of our immigrant brethren having various procedures caused by their traditional diets (anybody know how unhealthy gee butter is?). It was pointed out to me that the Muslims contrary to the long held belief that they would turn the Uk into a Moooooslim state, by outbreeding us? Given the numbers who are popping their clogs due to an unhealthy lifestyle, it’s never going to happen.
6. So just to reassure fellow arrsers, that living a Marxist lifestyle is dangerous to your brain’s development, as is voting for them.
 

Karamoja

Old-Salt
How DARE the working class vote for Boris. How dare they!!!

I don't understand what Boris has done in the past to justify such vitriol. Doesn't she understand he is is really from the centre left of the party. I reckon he is actually a closet huggy fluffy leftie, look at the first announcement today...going to enshrine the extra money for the NHS in law! Ridiculous, this is something Nick Clegg would have dreamt up!
 
So I was thinking about the British talent for muddling through/losing the initial battles and winning the war. And I think that's what's happened in this case.
  • Call Me Dave lost the battle to avoid committing to a referendum in the 2015 GE when it was clear that if he didn't UKIP would take enough votes off the Tories to stop them winning the GE.
  • Call Me Dave then lost the battle to get enough meaningful concessions out of the EU to win the referendum.
  • Call Me Dave then resigned having lost the battle to stay as PM in an EU member country.
  • May lost the battle to win an increased majority in the 2017 GE.
  • Having a minority government meant she lost the battle to get the 'Surrender Act' through parliament.
  • Having failed to get the 'Surrender Act' through parliament and got a pasting in the European elections, she lost the battle to stay as PM.
Commeth BoJo who won a thumping majority and is determined to take us out of the EU. If you think of all the things that could have happened:
  • Failure to win the referendum
  • Surrender act through parliament
  • BoJo fails to win a majority and 2nd referendum/Article 50 revoked
It's clear we've muddled through defeat after Brexit defeat and ended up with a strong government determined to Brexit. What I find truly ironic is that all the plotting/obstruction by the Remain camp/Establishment/Opposition has eventually landed us with a government that is going to execute a stronger Brexit than their worst fears.

Snigger....

Wordsmith
Have an 'excellent'!
 

Robme

LE
Similar position here. At least family members have stopped sarcastically inspecting English currency given to them as change :rolleyes:

It does raise the question though, if the Scots were to become totally independent is there any way the remainder of the UK could prevent an independent Scotland using the pound sterling as their currency of choice? The same way that several countries use the US dollar as their official currency.

Obviously Scotland couldn't print their own sterling notes and the Bank of England would presumably declare Scottish notes no longer legal currency in the remainder of the UK. However, if the Scottish government said "We're sticking with sterling, get fucked" is there anything anyone could do about it?
Yep lots actually, the world Bank and most other controlling fiscal organisations look down on that sort of practise. Cuba, which for years ran a separate tourist currency, had in the last few years reverted back to a single currency at the encouragement of the worlds currency markets. Aside from that, the U.K. last time we had this discussion, made perfectly clear to the Jocks that there was no-way hosay would they be aloud to use the Poond. In order for them to do so would be by them printing their own version of the poond, which as noted would not be accepted by the rest of us. Much like the Jocko’s own notes are unwelcome at the moment.
Only the US use the dollar as it’s currency, there are however a number of countries who have always worked with the US dollar along side their own currencies. Mexico is one example which springs to mind. The problem is, that the country using the dollar as an alternative, have no real control over the exchange rate and thus leave themselves wild open to inflation.
By far a bigger problem the Jocko’s face if they were to gain independence, is their share of the national debt they would have to take on, by my estimation currently at £600bn (all that extra government funding they relied on coming back to bite them). Factor in the pension commitments they would have to take on when the various government agencies were divvied up along side salaries etc. Along side all the equipment they would inheret which would need to be maintained. When all that is factored in a country which already has a higher basic tax rate than the rest of the U.K. and a massive national debt, none of which is going to assist that bright and sunny future the wee eke talks about. Whenever she spouts up she reminds me of a female version of Magic Grandpa.
 

NSP

LE
Careful. It would be a huge mistake to under-estimate Abbot and Corbyn. They're political heavyweights.
Well, Abbott's certainly a heavyweight, for sure!
 

Robme

LE
That girl is an idiot, I'll bet she reads Facebook and believes every piece of bollocks written.
Yer, yer, but yer, I’d still do her, so as find out where she keeps those ludicrous views. Slowly with chains, rubber and lube included.
 
So I was thinking about the British talent for muddling through/losing the initial battles and winning the war. And I think that's what's happened in this case.
  • Call Me Dave lost the battle to avoid committing to a referendum in the 2015 GE when it was clear that if he didn't UKIP would take enough votes off the Tories to stop them winning the GE.
  • Call Me Dave then lost the battle to get enough meaningful concessions out of the EU to win the referendum.
  • Call Me Dave then resigned having lost the battle to stay as PM in an EU member country.
  • May lost the battle to win an increased majority in the 2017 GE.
  • Having a minority government meant she lost the battle to get the 'Surrender Act' through parliament.
  • Having failed to get the 'Surrender Act' through parliament and got a pasting in the European elections, she lost the battle to stay as PM.
Commeth BoJo who won a thumping majority and is determined to take us out of the EU. If you think of all the things that could have happened:
  • Failure to win the referendum
  • Surrender act through parliament
  • BoJo fails to win a majority and 2nd referendum/Article 50 revoked
It's clear we've muddled through defeat after Brexit defeat and ended up with a strong government determined to Brexit. What I find truly ironic is that all the plotting/obstruction by the Remain camp/Establishment/Opposition has eventually landed us with a government that is going to execute a stronger Brexit than their worst fears.

Snigger....

Wordsmith
Just proves the old adage about the regulars holding the line until the reserves turn up and win the war.
 
If only you old feckers had died like you were supposed to and that the yoof all turned 18 and went out to vote for Magik Grampa.
Now I'm going to have to pay for my own fecking broadband.
No. No. No. You're wrong. If only the media hadn't of reported on Labour's election manifesto. It's all the media's fault. Oh... and Brexit obviously. Oh, and racism. And white people in general.
 

Robme

LE
They would have to cut public spending, their budget deficit is above 7% of GDP. To join the Euro it has to be below three - The UK’s as a whole is 1.1%.

This alone shows that Scotland would struggle to support itself.
Then when we add in their share of the national debt plus all the additional spending and the benefits culture that is Scotland upon their FREEDOM (copy-write Mel Gibson), they are as likely as my left big toe to gain membership of the E.U. Especially as Spain is all most certain to veto them anyway, not being particularly interested in stirring up Barcelona and the Basque region asperations.
 

Auld-Yin

ADC
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No. No. No. You're wrong. If only the media hadn't of reported on Labour's election manifesto. It's all the media's fault. Oh... and Brexit obviously. Oh, and racism. And white people in general.
And the Jews!
 

Auld-Yin

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Kit Reviewer
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Then when we add in their share of the national debt plus all the additional spending and the benefits culture that is Scotland upon their FREEDOM (copy-write Mel Gibson), they are as likely as my left big toe to gain membership of the E.U. Especially as Spain is all most certain to veto them anyway, not being particularly interested in stirring up Barcelona and the Basque region asperations.
But once our share of the national assets is handed over we will owe you nothing. Funny how those south of the border only think about debts, not assets.
 

Robme

LE
'lube'? I think you may have missed the point of those instructional videos.
But, but, but I don’t want to hurt myself. Unless it would like throwing a football down the high street?
 

Robme

LE
But once our share of the national assets is handed over we will owe you nothing. Funny how those south of the border only think about debts, not assets.
No on the contrary I am well aware that there will be a decision on assets? But you know that 4 tonner we are letting you have well it won’t be much good with no engine or a clap out gearbox. Likewise, ‘yep the 303 is the latest in infantry weapons’. Or ‘of course 4 rowing boats equals an aircraft carrier’ ‘what do you mean, those Sopwith Camels we are letting you have are as good as any F35’. Or perhaps you mean the Benefit scroungers move north to make best use of the Socialist Republic of Scotland’s, booming economy?
Scotland is a basket case at the moment propped up by the U.K. government as a whole, just how successful do you think they will be once the Barnet formula is removed? Replaced by a shed load of debt. Of course you are talking about all those national assets funded by the U.K. government like the Oil and gas?
 
Were Scotland to decide to go it alone..how would they decide the value of the Monarchy and divvy up Scotlands share of the monatry value of the Crown jewels etc etc?
 
Were Scotland to decide to go it alone..how would they decide the value of the Monarchy and divvy up Scotlands share of the monatry value of the Crown jewels etc etc?
War with the forces of the Crown (but without the Crown’s defence assets of course) would appear to be the fairest way of sorting out who owns what. To the victor the spoils sort of thing.

How are the Scotch fixed for blue face paint and Buckfast fighting fuel?
 

Robme

LE
'It's a SLUM!' Fed up residents SHAME Nicola Sturgeon's 'ghetto' constituency
It sounds like they need independence from her. (Article from 2017. Things may have changed since and pigs might fly)
I may have heard different over this, but apparently her nickname is ‘Nasher’ due to an unfortunate incident involving her teeth and an ex-boyfriend‘s Johnson. On the grounds that he said something she didn’t like whilst he was giving her a 2and 8 (A bit like a 69 but Jock style). Like I said the nick mane might not be accurately recorded her, but the story is perfectly true (apparently).
 

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