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General Election 2017 - The Consequences

Discussion in 'Current Affairs, News and Analysis' started by Auld-Yin, Jun 8, 2017.

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  1. Not to mention the crew eagerly putting themselves forward as replacements/alternatives.

    The prospect of that lot in power is the stuff of nightmares. Having the ‘Alternative' tragicomedy Punch and Judy duo at the helm does not bear thinking about
     
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  2. I think it's fair to say we haven't had a decent government since the middle era of Maggie. We've had some decent people try to be leaders and we've had a horror -- no guesses, you know who I mean -- masquerading as a decent person. I don't doubt that Cameron had his heart in the right place but, again, no gravitas despite his education. The pool available is shallow at present: BoJo has the charisma and the smarts but does he have the bottle to do what must be done -- who will be his Brutus? Davis has the smarts, the killer instinct and the right credentials to appeal but charisma... dear me, no. Other than those two, in the current Westminster crop, who else is there?
     
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  3. I think it's fair to say we haven't had a decent government since the middle era of Maggie. We've had some decent people try to be leaders and we've had a horror -- no guesses, you know who I mean -- masquerading as a decent person. I don't doubt that Cameron had his heart in the right place but, again, no gravitas despite his education. The pool available is shallow at present: BoJo has the charisma and the smarts but does he have the bottle to do what must be done -- who will be his Brutus? Davis has the smarts, the killer instinct and the right credentials to appeal but charisma... dear me, no. Other than those two, in the current Westminster crop, who else is there?
     
  4. seaweed

    seaweed LE Book Reviewer

    I don't like the idea of top politicians being in pawn to 'advisors'. I would expect a really skilful politicin to have a nose for what works and what doesn't.
     
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  5. Ruth Davidson would be the obvious choice
     
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  6. Ticks a lot of the lefts boxes (snigger) but her stance on exiting the EU would put her out of contention, plus she doesnt want the job.
     
  7. For all her faults May has been given the establishment's poisoned chalice- it's a hell of an epitaph. No one will forgive her anything, she is the sacrificial lamb if you like. If she runs she'll be villified and yet this is what politics most of our lives has preordained. Most politicians in most ages are shallow single issue people and I dare say that's probably what May thought she was destined for. A boot into the lords, retirement or the odd gong. We will see but nothing would surprise me.
     
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  8. There is something of a debate to be had here over the merits of 'specialist' versus 'generalist'. I suspect the complexities of modern politics are such that as with scientific fields, a person is forced to specialise in a particular field. Because of this they may be near illiterate outside of their given area, with the time requirements to achieve a high end qualification plus practical experience in just one field eating a chunky portion of the average lifespan.

    Given the above, I can understand a PM wanting a strong corps of advisors around to fill in the skill and knowledge gaps, and maybe kowtowing to the wisdom of experts.

    Our current system isn't really set up for the 'Jack of all trades' approach of someone who dabbles in multiple fields but isn't a card carrying expert in them all; in fact it tends to penalise you for that, with your professional career often stymied by not meeting a certain level of academic achievement. The only legal qualifications needed to stand as an MP are to be over 18 and a UK citizen, but I imagine you'd see someone taking that route being lambasted for being 'unqualified' regardless.
     
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  9. *cough* Mhairi Black *cough*
     
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  10. Good point, but I think it might be safe to say she is the exception rather than the rule?
     
  11. Is Mhairi any good though?
     
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  12. No, hence the *cough* at the part which included

    No "imagination" necessary, we have seen it pretty much happen with Miss Bawbag Black
     
  13. Long knives out in earnest, or cheap shot mischief?
    Lord Heseltine live this morning vaunting JC as a credible PM.
    Holy moly.
     
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  14. Tbh it was a genuine question.

    Other than some nonsense about her eating cola cube sandwiches and buying a couple of pints for her mates out of her wages.

    I know little about her.
     
  15. Corbyn had a little respect from my good self until now.

    His politicking at the tower and his tears of grief at the mosque have tarnished his brand.
     
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