General consensus on withdrawl from middle east conflicts.

#1
I'm doing research for my new book and was interested in what the general consensus was from the boys and girls who are currently serving, or who have served in the middle east regions. A full withdraw from the region seems very near but do the do the people who are doing the graft on the ground want to leave or do they feel there is more to do there. A friend of mine serving in the Saturdays And Sundays has fed me info saying that the feeling is positive towards staying and finishing the job. All comments welcome. Also if you are stuck for an xmas prezzy the ebook "at 61 degrees" would make a great stocking filler and it means you are raising money for HELP FOR HEROES charity. It's available from amazon.co.uk Have a great christamas and new year.
 
#2
Do your research properly because we finished in the Middle East a little while ago now.
 

jim24

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#5
Within ten years there will be nothing to show we were ever there, even the new roads will have vanished,as they are only made of DBST which will need to be resurfaced in 5 years the whole ten year cock up will have vanished just as the bones of Gandermack in 1842,
 

TheIronDuke

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#6
I'm doing research for my new book and was interested in what the general consensus was from the boys and girls who are currently serving, or who have served in the middle east regions. A full withdraw from the region seems very near but do the do the people who are doing the graft on the ground want to leave or do they feel there is more to do there. A friend of mine serving in the Saturdays And Sundays has fed me info saying that the feeling is positive towards staying and finishing the job. All comments welcome. Also if you are stuck for an xmas prezzy the ebook "at 61 degrees" would make a great stocking filler and it means you are raising money for HELP FOR HEROES charity. It's available from amazon.co.uk Have a great christamas and new year.
You are a lazy researcher and a patronising spammer.

1) You want to take the general consensus was from the boys and girls who are currently serving, or who have served in the middle east regions? Find one and talk to them face to face. Buy them a beer or a meal. If they trust you they will help. This is called primary research. What you are about is called bone ******* idle.

2) ARRSE members are mostly compos mentis and quite capable of finding their own stocking fillers. You want to plug your book, send a copy to the Book Review people here. Assuming you believe your tome can stand up to an ARRSE review.

3) ARRSE members are mostly compos mentis and quite capable of giving to the charity of their choice as and when they see fit.

4) Get a ******* haircut.
 
P

PrinceAlbert

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#8
I had to pull out of a middle eastern once because she didn't want to get preggars.

I jizzed down the back of her legs to register my digust.
 

TheIronDuke

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#9
And since it is my mission to educate - I note your nic here is mikesmartin46. Two digit number following a name? By a spooky coincidence the arse licking sole review of your book on Amazon is by shanaky35. Two digits following a name.

shanaky35 has never reviewed a book before and his gushing review of your book is his only contribution to Amazon. "Great book I look forward to reading more from this as of yet unknown writer."

How fortunate you are that his first ever review was of your book. And I am sure the name / two numbers thing is just a coincidence, hmmm? I mean, it wouldn't be that you have reviewed your own book and signposted the fact with the name / number thing? A smart writer like you wouldn't be that stupid, eh?
 
#10
You are a lazy researcher and a patronising spammer.

1) You want to take the general consensus was from the boys and girls who are currently serving, or who have served in the middle east regions? Find one and talk to them face to face. Buy them a beer or a meal. If they trust you they will help. This is called primary research. What you are about is called bone ******* idle.

2) ARRSE members are mostly compos mentis and quite capable of finding their own stocking fillers. You want to plug your book, send a copy to the Book Review people here. Assuming you believe your tome can stand up to an ARRSE review.

3) ARRSE members are mostly compos mentis and quite capable of giving to the charity of their choice as and when they see fit.

4) Get a ******* haircut.
To the educator. In case it makes you feel better the total amount of boys and girls I have spoken
to either currently serving or who have served is currently at 180. Some of these were at
Selly oak hospital in Birmingham and as you can guess have come back with very bad
life changing injuries. I even had the privilege to talk to members of their families
who also have had their lives changed, especially the children. I've bought many a drink
and sat with them chewing the fat. I'm sorry if it came across as being lazy I just like to be
thorough. The charity comment is a fair one and **** me you're right I do need a haircut.
 

TheIronDuke

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#11
To the educator. In case it makes you feel better the total amount of boys and girls I have spoken
to either currently serving or who have served is currently at 180. Some of these were at
Selly oak hospital in Birmingham and as you can guess have come back with very bad
life changing injuries. I even had the privilege to talk to members of their families
who also have had their lives changed, especially the children. I've bought many a drink
and sat with them chewing the fat. I'm sorry if it came across as being lazy I just like to be
thorough. The charity comment is a fair one and **** me you're right I do need a haircut.
Good. That 180 is treasure if you are a writer. That 180 is the start of a network that will take you... who knows where?

Thing that puzzles me about writers / journos who come on here and say "I am writing (whatever) help me out for free" is this.

The writers and journo's I know, the fun bit is the research. Meeting people who have been there. Getting a referral to another one who has been there. Building trust. Trying to understand the gig. If you have been to Selly Oak you will know that the iterwurb is basically **** compared to....

Yeah, well. Sorry about the haircut crack. That was cheap. You could maybe try braiding your blond highlights at the front? I'm thinking African beads and maybe hens feathers?

You did write that Amazon review though, didn't you? Come on. You did eh? You are among friends. We wont tell a soul.
 
#12
Thing that puzzles me about writers / journos who come on here and say "I am writing (whatever) help me out for free" is this.

The writers and journo's I know, the fun bit is the research. Meeting people who have been there. Getting a referral to another one who has been there. Building trust. Trying to understand the gig. If you have been to Selly Oak you will know that the iterwurb is basically **** compared to....
Yep, it's fairly odd that someone trying to research would come to an internet forum for material. Not only is it probably the most unreliable source for information (we were all on the balcony..) but isn't it skipping the actual fun part of the job they're doing?
 
#13
Good. That 180 is treasure if you are a writer. That 180 is the start of a network that will take you... who knows where?

Thing that puzzles me about writers / journos who come on here and say "I am writing (whatever) help me out for free" is this.

The writers and journo's I know, the fun bit is the research. Meeting people who have been there. Getting a referral to another one who has been there. Building trust. Trying to understand the gig. If you have been to Selly Oak you will know that the iterwurb is basically **** compared to....

Yeah, well. Sorry about the haircut crack. That was cheap. You could maybe try braiding your blond highlights at the front? I'm thinking African beads and maybe hens feathers?

You did write that Amazon review though, didn't you? Come on. You did eh? You are among friends. We wont tell a soul.
Ooh! Good back-pedal!
 
#14
Feathers wouldn't suit me. My hair looks like it's been permed with hula hoops
but might go with the African beads. You're right the 180 are treasure and
and has led me along many fantastic paths. This I suppose leads me to answer yours and other
folks queries about me being on here. I am not a journalist type and I am not fotunate enough
to be a professional writer. Like many I have to work full time to fund my research, usually 7 days
a week (less of the violins). It happened to be one of the guys I spoke to who came back from the
nether regions having to learn to walk again because of his injuries that suggested I come on because I would enjoy the
piss take and abuse and he's right. Like I said before I like to be thorough so whether it be talking
face to face or through forums it's all good stuff. So as much as it's great to talk about me
put your cocks down and lets hear some chitter chatter about the "consensus".
PS. Sorry to dissapoint but the review on amazon is genuine. The guy is a fellow rope access
industrial abseiler like myself but you are right, it does sound a bit arse licking. I did suggest telling him
what to put but I left him to it so there you go. I'll shut up now and wait for the abuse to pour in.
Cheers chaps.
 

FORMER_FYRDMAN

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Book Reviewer
#15
Anyone who suggests staying in Afghanistan until the job's done hasn't got a clue about what they're taking on.

All of our 'achievements' are the direct result of unsustainable amounts of Western military effort and money and it'll be business as usual five minutes after the military leaves and the money stops flowing. Thanks very much George and Tony.
 
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Mark The Convict

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#16
isn't it skipping the actual fun part of the job they're doing?
I'd have thought that the fun part was attending the book launch in a draughty converted warehouse in Rotherhithe, and being fellated badly by the publisher's PA in the goods lift.

Then having him/her chunder into your Kickers because he/she's pissed on cheap chardy, queasy from dodgy vol-au-vents, and desperate to get out of publishing because of all the shiftless oiks it attracts.
 
#17
Absolutely. Everyone knows that the moment the last plane takes off from Kabul the place will be a tribal bloodbath and no one is going to want to be throwing money at something that no longer flies a western flag just to keep the peace. Through the research I've been doing though a higher than normal percentage of folk involved on the ground don't feel they are leaving a sinking ship so to speak. This has surprised me especially as from the start, the whole thing from an outsiders point of view seems to be an attempt from you know who to leave a legacy of himself behind. This is why I am interested in getting a broader understanding of the facts from many voices as my time allows. Cheers.
 
#18
^ As been spoken here by other more erudite fellows than me, this thing called the tinterwebby is full of shite. Good for porn and scamming credit cards that's all.

All I can add is: accuracy mikesmartin46, accuracy. Chances of finding it here are very problematical.
 
#19
To the educator. In case it makes you feel better the total amount of boys and girls I have spoken
to either currently serving or who have served is currently at 180. Some of these were at
Selly oak hospital in Birmingham and as you can guess have come back with very bad
life changing injuries. I even had the privilege to talk to members of their families
who also have had their lives changed, especially the children. I've bought many a drink
and sat with them chewing the fat. I'm sorry if it came across as being lazy I just like to be
thorough. The charity comment is a fair one and **** me you're right I do need a haircut.
INHO I think that is a croc of shit. You say you have spoken to 180 chaps and their families and yet after that you come to an anonymous forum to make sure you have everything covered. On top of that you work to "fund" your research....oh and you come here and plug a book. No, no, doesnt feel right. Feels like a freelance journalist doing a story....and I very much doubt 180 chaps and their families have been spoken to by this chap. More then likely he has been to a Wooten Bassett and chatted to a few people there on the day of a repat.
 
#20
A friend of mine serving in the Saturdays And Sundays has fed me info saying that the feeling is positive towards staying and finishing the job.
Really, and what job might this be ... The Rise and Fall of the Forth Reich of Total Middle Eastern domination:?
 

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