Gen Sir Mike Jackson: My clash with Nato chief

#2
The man's an arrse!

How is he going to help things (other than his own bank balance) by knocking the Yanks now, of all times?

If he was that bloody concerned he should have stood up for himself at the outset, instead he became Bliars poodle and lickspittle and prosecuted an illegal war on the Labour Government's behalf (NOT on behalf on 'The Country', who, almost to a man didn't agree with it in the first place).

Jackson, you are a knob!
 
#3
Willy waving pure and simple. The man's a poseur IMHO.
 
#4
Interesting to read; Jackson was described as being 'emotional' during this incident by the Yanks.

His account (in his own words) seems to confirm this. He clearly had two options:

1. Obey the orders of his superior.
2. resign his post.

Instead he took a third of pushing the blame and responsibility for any decision on London. And this was his 'finest hour'.
 
#5
In the end wasn't Jackson right? This story has been told before and I can't help feeling that he made the right decision, he stood up to his superior when he felt the order was wrong yes he played the national card but he was entitled to do that.
 
#6
h_8204, the issue is the Jackson in his book is intimating that he was great, never wanted any of this to happen, he had everyone's best interests at heart, it wasn't his fault, etc. etc.

People are gripped because he refuses to accept any responsibility for his actions.
 
#7
h_8204 said:
In the end wasn't Jackson right? This story has been told before and I can't help feeling that he made the right decision, he stood up to his superior when he felt the order was wrong yes he played the national card but he was entitled to do that.
Which in another age may have been cosidered mutinous.
 
#8
He was happy enough to carry out his orders for Tony Blair. The worst British foreign policy error for 50 years. Don't suppose American General's exert the same influence over one's future.
 
#10
As an aside I had a spam email last night from a Mike Jackson offering me cut price Viagra. Is this something to do with his future employment? I.. er.. ahem.. naturally didn't buy any.
 
#11
As a serving member of HM forces and subject to QRs and MMl he was only in a position to stae his opinion to the MOD not to refuse to obey orders that he didn't like. Whether he's a saint or a sinner does not alter that fact. In the same way as lots of people say he and the present CGS should resign they have the option of signing off. It's unfortunate that he served under a government that "knows best" and ignores any recommendation from any advisor(including pay review boards). There are always two choices ,resign or stay and fight your corner, being in the CGS's position it is not always possible to publicise all the infighting you are doing on behalf of the forces. I am neither a fan or foe of Jackson just a realist.
 

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#12
Still, I'm going to buy his book. Fcuk it.
 
#13
At least wait a week and you will get it for 2p on E Bay
 

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#14
western said:
Interesting to read; Jackson was described as being 'emotional' during this incident by the Yanks.
I notice he comments that 'the whisky bottle was empty...'. I wonder how many people had been drinking from it?
 

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#15
western said:
At least wait a week and you will get it for 2p on E Bay
Good point. Thing is, I'm at a loss for what to read next. Just done Dusty Warriors and followed it with Sniper One. Cracking reads, both of them.

Any other suggestions?
 
#16
craftsmanx said:
As a serving member of HM forces and subject to QRs abs MMl he was only in a position to stae his opinion to the MOD not to refuse to obey orders that he didn't like. Whether he's a saint or a sinner does not alter tghat fact. In the same way as lots of people say he and the present CGS should resign they have the option of signing off. It's unfortunate that he served under a government that "knows best" and ignores any recommendation from any advisor. There a5re alwqys two choices resign or stay and fight yuor corner, being in the CGS's position it is not always possible to publicise all the infighting you are doing on behalf of the forces. I am neither a fan or foe of Jackson just a realist.
.

Jesus, you don't have to resign. There are other ways of disobeying an order. Much smarter ways!!!
 
#17
cpunk said:
western said:
Interesting to read; Jackson was described as being 'emotional' during this incident by the Yanks.
I notice he comments that 'the whisky bottle was empty...'. I wonder how many people had been drinking from it?
8) He has 42 years service in hope he gets it right most of the time,seems like its him most of the time but you dont argue with those in charge you do what you think best after they are out of the way as long as YOU KNOW YOU ARE CORRECT AND IT WILL WORK,dont stuff things up for others to undo 8)
 
#18
Biped said:
western said:
At least wait a week and you will get it for 2p on E Bay
Good point. Thing is, I'm at a loss for what to read next. Just done Dusty Warriors and followed it with Sniper One. Cracking reads, both of them.

Any other suggestions?
Tried: Lone Survivor: The Eyewitness Account of Operation Redwing and the Lost Heroes of SEAL,” former US Navy SEALs team leader Marcus Luttrell recounts his amazing journey, on a mission to capture a notorious al Qaeda suspect, from his base in Afghanistan to the Pakastani border

or

Roberts Ridge: A Story of Courage and Sacrifice on Takur Ghar Mountain, Afghanistan
 

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Book Reviewer
#19
western said:
Biped said:
western said:
At least wait a week and you will get it for 2p on E Bay
Good point. Thing is, I'm at a loss for what to read next. Just done Dusty Warriors and followed it with Sniper One. Cracking reads, both of them.

Any other suggestions?
Tried: Lone Survivor: The Eyewitness Account of Operation Redwing and the Lost Heroes of SEAL,” former US Navy SEALs team leader Marcus Luttrell recounts his amazing journey, on a mission to capture a notorious al Qaeda suspect, from his base in Afghanistan to the Pakastani border

or

Roberts Ridge: A Story of Courage and Sacrifice on Takur Ghar Mountain, Afghanistan
Fank yoo.
 
#20
Biped said:
western said:
At least wait a week and you will get it for 2p on E Bay
Good point. Thing is, I'm at a loss for what to read next. Just done Dusty Warriors and followed it with Sniper One. Cracking reads, both of them.

Any other suggestions?
Have you put Dusty Warriors on ebay yet? Must have my head up my arrse as Blair and co would prefer. I'd never heard of it until I came a member and it does sound very good. I find it a disgrace that this Gov have managed to suppress stories like this in the public domain.
 

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