Gen Nick Carter - a year in post as CGS. Give us a progress update?

Discussion in 'Staff College and Staff Officers' started by Stonker, Sep 3, 2015.

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  1. To say nothing of correctly-spelled but commonly misused words: my current bugbear is principal/principle. Let's not even talk about Old School RSMs with pacific requirements.
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  2. Caecilius

    Caecilius LE Reviewer Book Reviewer

    You are talking about the organisation where most of the senior commanders are pilots, right? As in the single longest and most expensive operator training pathway available in the armed forces.
  3. Yes, and the one where the senior HR man is an HR specialist, the senior loggie is a loggie specialist etc etc, and the Assistant Chief is an engineer. It surely shouldn't be a surprise that an organisation that exists to deliver airpower is commanded by airmen?
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  4. Air Member for Personnel is a pilot.
    Deputy Commander for capability is a pilot (and is the same man as AM(P)).
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  5. Yes, but still fundamentally similar to how Land does the foodchain; SME's commanding the various Branches, with (primarily) the teeth arm operators with their hands on 'ops deck'* - as a visit to 1st and 2nd floor Hurricane Block will confirm..

    ..* in Air's case, the ubiquitous two wing master race. ...despite the best efforts of the Eng Branch ;-)
  6. ....or do I mean invidious?
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  7. Caecilius

    Caecilius LE Reviewer Book Reviewer

    But your loggie is trained as a loggie operator first, just like the army bloke.

    We are also talking about the organisation that produced such incredible successes as Typhoon, Voyager, A400, the HERRICK airbridge and Jock Stirrup. The army has an almost endless list of faults but I don't think we should regard the RAF as the epitome of best practice.
  8. But they've also produced Peachy, so I think he cancels out Stirrup.

    (Note, Peach is a great of example of why generalists can be a good thing. In his case, his career path doesn't seem typical but has covered a lot of different posts).
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  9. Voyager was a Govt enforced choice, we needed Strat Tanking.

    Typhoon is the second only to the F22 and is still maturing, when F35b comes on line it's partner ship is even making the USAF envious.

    A400 fair enough.

    You forgot MERT.
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  10. To be fair to Crab Air, you try maintaining a strat air bridge, at reach, with a load of f@@ked AT (VC10) and not enough DAS to cover off the rest of your fleet... all the time with the Centre pointing a gun at your head labelled 'strategic failure' ..

    ...Jock Stirrup was definitely on the spectrum though.
  11. The_Duke

    The_Duke LE Moderator

    MERT is a medical capability, which just happened to be most frequently flown in a Chinook during TELIC and HERRICK. MERT is still a MERT if it is in any other form of transport.

    By all means big up the SH fleet people who flew the cabs and the tri-service people who worked out of the back of them, but don't make the mistake of assuming MERT = RAF.
  12. I don't believe me, SH fleet crew have enough gongs to do that.
  13. Caecilius

    Caecilius LE Reviewer Book Reviewer

    I agree to an extent, but if you made a comment like that about any army capability or operation on here, you'd immediately be accused of claiming 'that a big boy did it and ran away' and would be told that the army should take responsibility for its own failures. Sauce for the goose, etc.
  14. The difference is we've learned from the mistakes.
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  15. A little churlish?