GB & UK Patriot Act?

Should a patriots Act for the GB & UK be introduced?

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Rod924

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#1
Do not have a scooby-doo how to set up a 'poll' (maybe the board Gastapo could halp?) on here, but would be interested in views re introducing a Patriot Act.

All Public buildings including schools to fly the Union flag together with the country flag

As with US, ALL school children to swear allegiance to the Queen daily

State schools = state education

Plenty more could be added, but then again, has the horse already bolted?
 
#2
How disgustingly un-British.
 
#3
Forcing the unwashed youth of today to plead alliegence to the Queen every day, without the US ability to brainwash them at the same time is one sure fire way of turning them against the Queen (or Sucessor) in the long term.

There lies the path to a Republic. Is that what you are after in the long run?
 
#4
Rod924 said:
Do not have a scooby-doo how to set up a 'poll' (maybe the board Gastapo could halp?) on here, but would be interested in views re introducing a Patriot Act.

All Public buildings including schools to fly the Union flag together with the country flag

As with US, ALL school children to swear allegiance to the Queen daily

State schools = state education

Plenty more could be added, but then again, has the horse already bolted?
Oi Penelope pitstop, You trying to be chav?
You trying to turn this country in a another state of America?
 
#5
How about an offence of Treasonous behaviour?

Inciting terrorism against the country you are in = treason= gaol- forever!
 
#6
Most Un-British

So American children swear allegiance to the President every day?

Can't see Bluppet allowing schoolkids to swear allegiance to Madge every day , not while his celestial navigatorship (Heh!) is in charge
 
#7
Not a chance - the likelihood is that allegiance would be sworn to Bliar and not HM.

We need to:

Keep up the intelligence and police work.
Get a grip of our borders.
Look objectively at our disastrous foreign policy.
Restore trust in the political process.

Items 3 and 4 may be seen as "appeasement" particularly by those who continue to defend Bliar and his failed wars. This is not the case - if our involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan had been (and were continuing to be) successful then such a policy would best be maintained in the face of terrorism...although such terrorism would be less likely to occur. The fact is that the Iraq venture has failed and has increased the terrorist threat...a lose-lose situation.
 
#8
isn't treason still punishable by death?
 
#10
Bring it back i say, and start clearing out the prisions as well!
 
#11
i agree with some of the initial statement and others.

yes there should be a form of Patriot Act , more public displays of the National flag, on Public and private building and in Offices, encourage Pride in being British instead of brushing it under the carpet,

if any immigrants want to become a British citizen they should serve 5 years in the British Army (unless barred by a disablility) by then they will have earned their right to live in this country and having a proper stake in it if they die in service then their families are automatically British as they have made the ultimate sacrifice for this country.

anyone downgrading and spitting on British way of life by preaching holy war and Jihad against us to be automaticallly deported back their own home country and try living without the WESTERN lifestyle they so enjoy, their families and relatives following close behind ! unless they swear complete loyality to UK and disown their mad mullah father ! :evil:

illegal immigrant without documents is to be denied entry to UK in any circumstances they are to be shipped back immediatly no appeals, back to France as a first choice, which where most of them came from.

Death Penalty restored for crimes against humanity, murders, child killings, treason, piracy, even better don't use hanging, instead have a row of elecric chairs connected in a loop and you can zap load of evil criminals in no time.

empathise British quality of life and History in schools which many people seemed to forget, show pride in our achievements our courage in the face of adversity, teach all this especially to other ethnic minority children so they can buy into the British lifestyle and share in it. everything else follow from that.


try this http://www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/customs/questions/ a good start


Rule Britania !
 
#12
Semper...get the blinkers off


....... British quality of life and History in schools which many people seemed to forget, show pride in our achievements our courage in the face of adversity, teach all this especially to other ethnic minority children so they can buy into the British lifestyle and share in it. everything else follow from that.



Would a patriot act prevent the following occurring again? And is it typically British or un-British?

Displacing the previously colonised population of Diego Garcia to Mauritius and the Seychelles (into slums), handing it to the U.S. to use as a strategic military base and keeping it secret for 30 years

ps. Britannia = one t and two n's
 
#13
It will never happen. It might offend the "irish" or some other tiny minority group who are happy to avail of the rights and freedoms our country offers while at best despising it, and at worst actively opposing it. The spineless government will always let the tail (ie these people) wag the dog.
 
#14
frenchperson said:
Displacing the previously colonised population of Diego Garcia to Mauritius and the Seychelles (into slums), handing it to the U.S. to use as a strategic military base and keeping it secret for 30 years
ahh so the rainbow warrior incident didn't happen ?

the French exploded Nuclear Bomb in the pacific in defiance of the world opinioin also displacing population in the process.

The French doesn't allow its citizens to be extradited even for murder.

the same French who was once occupied by the German and immediatly forget the lesson to immediatly try to resume it former position as a colonial power by reimposing autocratic rule in Indo China and Algeria several pacific islands.

i could go on........
 
#15
BlotBangRub said:
It will never happen. It might offend the "irish" or some other tiny minority group who are happy to avail of the rights and freedoms our country offers while at best despising it, and at worst actively opposing it. The spineless government will always let the tail (ie these people) wag the dog.
are you advocating that we do nothing ?
what is your solution ?
 
#16
semper said:
i agree with some of the initial statement and others.

yes there should be a form of Patriot Act , more public displays of the National flag, on Public and private building and in Offices, encourage Pride in being British instead of brushing it under the carpet,

if any immigrants want to become a British citizen they should serve 5 years in the British Army (unless barred by a disablility) by then they will have earned their right to live in this country and having a proper stake in it if they die in service then their families are automatically British as they have made the ultimate sacrifice for this country.

anyone downgrading and spitting on British way of life by preaching holy war and Jihad against us to be automaticallly deported back their own home country and try living without the WESTERN lifestyle they so enjoy, their families and relatives following close behind ! unless they swear complete loyality to UK and disown their mad mullah father ! :evil:

illegal immigrant without documents is to be denied entry to UK in any circumstances they are to be shipped back immediatly no appeals, back to France as a first choice, which where most of them came from.

Death Penalty restored for crimes against humanity, murders, child killings, treason, piracy, even better don't use hanging, instead have a row of elecric chairs connected in a loop and you can zap load of evil criminals in no time.

empathise British quality of life and History in schools which many people seemed to forget, show pride in our achievements our courage in the face of adversity, teach all this especially to other ethnic minority children so they can buy into the British lifestyle and share in it. everything else follow from that.


try this http://www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/customs/questions/ a good start


Rule Britania !
 
#17
I am not advocating we do nothing just stating that the pc lobby will never let us do this.

The "Irish" have already been mentioned in government proposal for id cards, stating they will not have to carry them. This is a disgrace.

As far as I am concerned if the Irish, Muslims or anyone does not like the national flag flying on public buildings they can exercise another freedom we have in then UK and leave the country. Please take a chav under each arm when you go.
 
#18
semper said:
i agree with some of the initial statement and others.

yes there should be a form of Patriot Act , more public displays of the National flag, on Public and private building and in Offices, encourage Pride in being British instead of brushing it under the carpet,

if any immigrants want to become a British citizen they should serve 5 years in the British Army (unless barred by a disablility) by then they will have earned their right to live in this country and having a proper stake in it if they die in service then their families are automatically British as they have made the ultimate sacrifice for this country.

anyone downgrading and spitting on British way of life by preaching holy war and Jihad against us to be automaticallly deported back their own home country and try living without the WESTERN lifestyle they so enjoy, their families and relatives following close behind ! unless they swear complete loyality to UK and disown their mad mullah father ! :evil:

illegal immigrant without documents is to be denied entry to UK in any circumstances they are to be shipped back immediatly no appeals, back to France as a first choice, which where most of them came from.

Death Penalty restored for crimes against humanity, murders, child killings, treason, piracy, even better don't use hanging, instead have a row of elecric chairs connected in a loop and you can zap load of evil criminals in no time.

empathise British quality of life and History in schools which many people seemed to forget, show pride in our achievements our courage in the face of adversity, teach all this especially to other ethnic minority children so they can buy into the British lifestyle and share in it. everything else follow from that.


try this http://www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/customs/questions/ a good start


Rule Britania !
Not 'arf mate, but don't forget the Death penalty for people who kill DJs as well. :D

You wouldn't want to connect electric chairs in a loop, you want to connect them in parallel. Taking a theoretical case where all the executionees have the same bodily resistance and we apply voltage at 440VDC , and you had ten perps wired up in series, potential divider theory and Ohm's law tells us that the last perp in line would only get a 44VDC belt, which would not do the biz.

Think on, young man...

On a serious note, I would be very wary of knee-jerk legislation, especially from this Government. When you have a quiescent, albeit reduced majority in Parliament, it is very easy and tempting for a government to rush in ill thought-out legislation just to be seen to be doing something, rather than providing the security services with the resources and support to get on with the job using existing and usually quite adequate laws.
I was listening to Peter Hitchens on R4 yesterday, and he made this point very eloquently.
 
#19
Do you really think that the average Guardianista pinko limp lettuce school teacher would be capable of, let alone enthusiastic about, ensuring that any meaningful display of allegiance to the crown (or as has been suggested, St Tony of Freetown, or El Presidente, or whoever) was carried out respectfully, and more importantly with conviction? Because I don't.

Anyway, the whole thing's far too heart-on-sleeve and un-British. Don't be silly!
 
#20
Rod924 said:
Do not have a scooby-doo how to set up a 'poll' (maybe the board Gastapo could halp?) on here, but would be interested in views re introducing a Patriot Act.

All Public buildings including schools to fly the Union flag together with the country flag

As with US, ALL school children to swear allegiance to the Queen daily

State schools = state education

Plenty more could be added, but then again, has the horse already bolted?
We are talking a quite distinct area of policy here which has little or nothing to do the "Patriot" Act in the US. Is this intentional or do you really mean an act like the US "Patriot" act?
 

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