GB News - serious challenger to Aunty & SKY?

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I'm rather reserved & have mixed views on GB News latest developments, clearly a big fall out between Andrew Neil & it's primary fiscal backers.. I don't watch Fox news or interested in any US news channels so the question remains unanswered..

Is the UK ready for a so called 'right wing' news channel after years of lefty woke media manure?


I find myself with a Brotheron Lad position at the minute which is ‘let’s wait and see’. Not enough information to form any kind of objective option. Plenty of speculation in the media which is being reported as fact. I’ll continue to watch the channel as I quite like the reporting and interviewing style where people are actually allowed to finish a sentence.
 
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Tim Montgomerie: Don't write off GB News. The channel's naysayers should put their champagne back in the fridge. | Conservative Home
 

You see, Tim Montgomerie has started off with the premise that the channel's 'naysayers' comprise only those who wished it ill from the outset. What of those, like myself, who saw the necessity and the opportunity for a new news media outlet but who have been thoroughly disappointed with the results so far? If it fails, I will not be breaking out any champagne. I will not be surprised, but I will be mourning, a little, an opportunity lost. I know that there are others, on this site alone, who think similarly.

Ultimately, it will be the advertisers who decide rather than Tim Montgomerie.
 
Just noticed that Liam Halligan has his own one hour show at last. Good. They needed something like this, similar to BBC's long gone Working Lunch, at least the original version.

13:00 - 14:00

On The Money​

Your daily dose of economics, business and consumer news, views and discussion presented by GB News expert Liam Halligan.
 
I find myself with a Brotheron Lad position at the minute which is ‘let’s wait and see’. Not enough information to form any kind of objective option. Plenty of speculation in the media which is being reported as fact. I’ll continue to watch the channel as I quite like the reporting and interviewing style where people are actually allowed to finish a sentence.
Fair & valid summary, cant argue with that..

The cynic in me says the GBN board room are out to target the likes of Piers Morgan & other very controversial individuals.

Time will tell.
 
I must be one of your 'thick people'. Which is rather odd.
Me too, I still watch it every day, its the only place where the non woke news is shown & they often show both sides to a debate allowing one to think about it, rather than sit being brainwashed as you would with Al beeb. I cannot remember the last time I watched any beeb news programme & don't miss it!
 

Gout Man

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A minority of ONE!
viewing figures that low:-?
Not quite, but from what I saw of it it was not right wing it was just, well it was simply awful, very amateurish and that was the problem.

 
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Cold_Collation

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A minority of ONE!
viewing figures that low:-?
Not quite, but from what I saw of it was not right wing it was just, well it was simply awful, very amateurish and that was the problem.

Production issues aside, I think that something else was missed.

We (nearly) all decry the pointlessness of rolling news - GB News was always going to be about comment for a lot of the time. Or news analysis, depending on what you want to call it.

What I personally object to is the constant labelling of the content as 'right wing'. It's at best centrist; it's just not to the liking of some of the MSM, including the BBC, Sky and so on. That doesn't make the content right-wing, not nearly; the whole rationale for GB News was as a counter the mainstream being moved to the left by a self-selecting clique.

Morgan's being scooped up by Sky is an interesting development, however.
 
Not quite, but from what I saw of it it was not right wing it was just, well it was simply awful, very amateurish and that was the problem.

It's right wing alright, but that is not its problem. It has decided to emulate the trash style and journalistic standards of outlets such as Fox News and Sky News Australia.

If it fails, as seems likely, it will be a victory for good taste and common sense. Its going might make space for something more worthwhile and reputable.
 

Gout Man

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It's right wing alright, but that is not its problem. It has decided to emulate the trash style and journalistic standards of outlets such as Fox News and Sky News Australia.

If it fails, as seems likely, it will be a victory for good taste and common sense. Its going might make space for something more worthwhile and reputable.
I stated very early on that I’d be surprised if it lasted, I still stand by that statement.
I haven’t seen Fox or Sky News Australia but I have gone off Sky news the past year or so, in fact the only news I listen to now is ITV and that’s maybe once or twice a week, oh and a quick look at the headlines on the web in the morning.
I really have started to embrace the saying “ignorance is bliss”.
 
I'm rather reserved & have mixed views on GB News latest developments, clearly a big fall out between Andrew Neil & it's primary fiscal backers.. I don't watch Fox news or interested in any US news channels so the question remains unanswered..

Is the UK ready for a so called 'right wing' news channel after years of lefty woke media manure?


I think a Definition of the words Right Wing are needed first.

It appears to be anywhere between 'Not agreeing with my Liberal Principles' through ' brain-dead Skinhead thugs ' up to full-on 'Nazi bastards.'
 
I think a Definition of the words Right Wing are needed first.

It appears to be anywhere between 'Not agreeing with my Liberal Principles' through ' brain-dead Skinhead thugs ' up to full-on 'Nazi bastards.'
The common definition is a big problem because it is so seldom given any context or realistic points of reference. National socialists were massively big state. Right leaning conservatives want smaller state, free trade and less government interference. That's freedom not fascism or totalitarianism. Extremists of various flavours on the left want bigger state, more bureaucracy, hate speech laws, blasphemy laws, an end to the traditional family with the state taking control.

For a left of centre GB News presenter, flagging up the dangers of the above, to be labelled as far right is patently ridiculous but this is what is happening when hard left extremists are allowed to control the "narrative".
 
I think we can discount the views of the left towards GB News' position in the political firmament for what it is. What cannot be contradicted are claims of its poor quality, both in terms of presentation and much of the journalism.

If liberal/left predominance in broadcasting is to be challenged, then this is not best served by an alternative of such truly shoddy quality. It allows people to say wryly, "Oh well, perhaps the BBC isn't so bad, after all'.
 

Cold_Collation

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I think we can discount the views of the left towards GB News' position in the political firmament for what it is. What cannot be contradicted are claims of its poor quality, both in terms of presentation and much of the journalism.

If liberal/left predominance in broadcasting is to be challenged, then this is not best served by an alternative of such truly shoddy quality. It allows people to say wryly, "Oh well, perhaps the BBC isn't so bad, after all'.
And that, I think, it a tragedy. I agree with you wholeheartedly - presentation is all (the flip-side, of course, being that the BBC's slick performance on the presentation front makes injecting poison into the mind so much more palatable).
 
To be honest, so far I have seen zero evidence of any particular right wing bias. Seen plenty of debate/discussion of various issues & some reporting of events not covered by MSM (Muslim teacher sent home for being racist for example) , sure it's nowhere near as polished as BBC news but then it's still early days & it has nowhere near the funding the Beeb has.
It also takes the time to highlight the current issues in Scotland wrt the NHS & St Nicola's record of mediocrity. Which makes a change from the normal easy ride the media seem to give her.
 

Tyk

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To be honest, so far I have seen zero evidence of any particular right wing bias. Seen plenty of debate/discussion of various issues & some reporting of events not covered by MSM (Muslim teacher sent home for being racist for example) , sure it's nowhere near as polished as BBC news but then it's still early days & it has nowhere near the funding the Beeb has.
It also takes the time to highlight the current issues in Scotland wrt the NHS & St Nicola's record of mediocrity. Which makes a change from the normal easy ride the media seem to give her.

To be fair taking any position that views woke, diversity, identity politics, intersectionality, BLM or other marxist organisations as anything other than perfection results in immediate accusations of being far right.

Like the word racism calling someone far right is now so utterly devalued by ignorant misuse it's meaningless.
 

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