gas/elec bills germany

#1
What is going on with these, one of my lads has just recieved a bill/debit voucher for £500, he has four kids and xmas is but a mere month away, not that that is the the crux of the matter, 500 quid at any time is well out of order, last years bills were very similar, so they cant be taking anything like the correct amount off at source.

The Lads wife is understandably distraught, i wont be surprised to read about "gulf war vet disgrace" somewhere else soon.

another for lad has one for £300 and thats the only two i know about as yet,

I cant wait for mine to arrive as it was 270 last year, i phoned and complained about that, but nothing seems to have been done, (should i have really expected any different).
 
#2
So, you want your gas and electric for free then? Or do you just want to use unlimited amounts and let the MOD pay for it then
 
#3
drain_sniffer said:
So, you want your gas and electric for free then? Or do you just want to use unlimited amounts and let the MOD pay for it then
sounds good to me whats wrong with that?

its the new caring sharing mod
 
#4
You could always try unplugging some of your electrical items and wearing some jumpers around the house :D
 
#5
drain_sniffer said:
So, you want your gas and electric for free then? Or do you just want to use unlimited amounts and let the MOD pay for it then

What, like the UKBC civil servants and BFG Health Service?
 
#6
you obviously take your real name from the website name. were you bullied?

the point in question is the simple (Thats simple, you should understand that) fact that the Army/Civilian admin staff can not get a simple thing right time after time in taking the correct amount of money off monthly so that it doesn't end in huge bills being raised against people.
 
#7
ViroBono said:
drain_sniffer said:
So, you want your gas and electric for free then? Or do you just want to use unlimited amounts and let the MOD pay for it then

What, like the UKBC civil servants and BFG Health Service?
You cant expect a civvy to pay to heat an entire 3 bedroom detached house when there's only 2 of them living there
 
#8
capitalred said:
you obviously take your real name from the website name. were you bullied?

the point in question is the simple (Thats simple, you should understand that) fact that the Army/Civilian admin staff can not get a simple thing right time after time in taking the correct amount of money off monthly so that it doesn't end in huge bills being raised against people.
When I served in Germany, the money was taken out monthly as per usual, but I was in the lucky position of being able to get a rebate on the years payments through careful usage of said utilities.
 
#9
capitalred said:
the point in question is the simple (Thats simple, you should understand that) fact that the Army/Civilian admin staff can not get a simple thing right time after time in taking the correct amount of money off monthly so that it doesn't end in huge bills being raised against people.

well - i live in germany and i can tell you it's the usual to do it this way here ;)
the amount seems pretty low to me though - i pay about sixfold of it for my house :x

anyway - you know before that you will be charged end of the year - so the easiest way would be to put some money aside every month
that's the way most ppl i know do it - and you won't believe - it works :D
 
#10
All the mickey taking aside, his real point is not the amount they are paying, but the amount they are paying monthly, not refelcting usuage. And thats a fair point. In todays day and age most people paying Gas and Electric by Direct Debit (which is effectively what your doing with F&L) if they use more, their direct debit gets increased. Would it be so hard to have such a system? Even if you simply give people the option to increase their monthly payments, (i.e. no change to actuall reading taken etc) this would be an improvement. Having just paid for such a fantastic upgraded computer system (JPA), are you telling me it cant cope with people paying variable amounts into a Budget IAC and keep track of those payments?
 
#11
the monthly sum removed from the wages is far to low to cover any costs, there is not a drama paying, and it is being raised every year as people get larger and larger bills every time. if the forces can get it right why arnt we allowed to pay direct to the provider, like the UK

P.S. i like people who save especially for a bill, unfortuantly a lot of squaddies dont and TBH never will.
 
#12
IT_GEEK said:
All the mickey taking aside, his real point is not the amount they are paying, but the amount they are paying monthly, not refelcting usuage. And thats a fair point. In todays day and age most people paying Gas and Electric by Direct Debit (which is effectively what your doing with F&L) if they use more, their direct debit gets increased. Would it be so hard to have such a system? Even if you simply give people the option to increase their monthly payments, (i.e. no change to actuall reading taken etc) this would be an improvement. Having just paid for such a fantastic upgraded computer system (JPA), are you telling me it cant cope with people paying variable amounts into a Budget IAC and keep track of those payments?
thank you, much more eloquently put than i could manage and exactly what i was trying to get across, i think theres enough folk in serious debt situations already.
 
#13
What would you rather have.

1. Overpaying every month and then getting it back, without interest, when they come and read your meter.

2. Paying the same rate all year round, and you putting a little bit aside every month to offset this 'big bill' , earning interest possibly.

3. Being a bit more sparing with your usage and saving the environment for a little bit longer, as well as spening less cash.

We have paid the same rate all year now for 12 months or 18 I think. I moved into my quarter in Jul last year and still got a £60 rebate in October. I know I am Scottish, but I have more electrical things in my house than a branch of Currys.

Saying all that though, I have yet to find out what has happened this year 8O
 
#15
just received mine got to pay 300. HAVING LOOKED CLOSER 120 is from last year the amount the say they under charged us all.but why do we pay afixed rate every month still to be paying more. would it not be better to pay 2 much and get a rebate in time for xmas.
 
#16
Just got my £70 credit and that was after they had taken the extra for the under charged months of Oct 06 - Mar 07.

As for paying how much you want it's not a Xmas savings scheme!

This sort of thing does still happen in civvie street. I had to pay £200 to the highwayman that is N Power on march out of my last quarter.

What it boils down to is that we all know when the bills are due. As for it being just before Xmas maybe the powers that be should consider a change of month but not to Dec as we're all skint anyway!

Jockster
 
#17
ViroBono said:
It strikes me that this needs to be raised through the CoC, with a view to the system being reviewed.
Agreed. The thing i dont like is that i cant chose my supplier and we simply have to rely on the MOD to charge us a competitive rate. I'm making an assumption that Germany has a similar system to UK where you are free to shop around for an energy supplier.
 
#18
Bearing in mind T Coms technical efficiency, or lack of, would you really want to be with a German utilities company?

Saying that if your in a flat and share some facilities I understand where you may be coming from.

Jockster
 
#19
Jockster915 said:
.....As for paying how much you want it's not a Xmas savings scheme!....
Jockster
No one is saying that it is, but if I want to increase or decrease my Direct Debit with NPower, I ring up and tell them, and it happens. As as already been pointed out from different peoples amounts, refunds/debits etc, people are different, so why not allow people to increase or decrease their payments. the system is already there. It already keeps track of what you do pay. So instead of getting the rate from a rate table, simply set the rate at the rate table value as a default when people move in, as now, but allow it to be amended via JPA input just the same as a Bank allotment. A saftey net could be built in with a minumum limit (to stop the idiots stopping it alltogether or reducing it to 1p) but if I know I like to leave all my 200w lighst on all night and want to up my payments to £500 a month, why shouldn't I. This change would be fairly minimal in the scheme of things
 
#20
IT-GEEK fair comment but who is going to carry out the extra admin on JPA? Our DHE office would come to a standstill and then we would have complaints about MQ charges being started late etc - oh dear we already have.
 

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