Games permit virtual war crimes

#1
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8373794.stm

Video games depicting war have come under fire for flouting laws governing armed conflicts.

Human rights groups played various games to see if any broke humanitarian laws that govern what is a war crime.

The study condemned the games for violating laws by letting players kill civilians, torture captives and wantonly destroy homes and buildings.

It said game makers should work harder to remind players about the real world limits on their actions.
Should game makers make players abide by the law of armed conflict or would that be seen as too 'nannyish'?

It noted that, even though most players would never become real world combatants, the games could influence what people believe war is like and how soldiers conduct themselves in the real world
This bit made me chuckle a little bit having listened to the guy's in the office talking about some new game out and giggling like schoolboys over being able to 'kill civilians, torture captives and wantonly destroy homes and buildings', yet they are, in reality, some of the most professional soldiers I've met (not that I'll ever say that to them).

So, do games like this really influence people's views on conflict and soldiers conduct?
 

Bouillabaisse

LE
Book Reviewer
#3
They tested Call of Duty 5 but not the latest? They're not going to like the airport episode in that game one little bit
 
#4
I don't recall getting issued a RoE card with any Xbox game. Unless I'm mistaken I don't recall a button that lets you shout "Army, stop or I fire" before opening up with my weapon of choice.

What a shiite story.
 

FORMER_FYRDMAN

LE
Book Reviewer
#5
I bet Phil Shiner is already preparing for Avatar v Geek in the High Court.

What about Hollywood's output? I doubt if any of Arnie's films are LOAC compliant.
 
#7
smudge67 said:
I don't recall getting issued a RoE card with any Xbox game. Unless I'm mistaken I don't recall a button that lets you shout "Army, stop or I fire" before opening up with my weapon of choice.

What a shiite story.
What are they teaching these days?

It's..

Crack! Crack! Thump! Thump!

"Army stop or I fire!"
 

Fugly

ADC
DirtyBAT
#8
I can't see a game that, once you shoot a random civilian in the face for no reason at all, then locks you out of it until you are virtually called for your virtual trial in a virtual Hague selling too well, to be honest.
 
#10
I've never played any of these games, but I did rather enjoy shooting all the peaceful monks in Tomb Raider to make more enemies...private conflict so pretty sure that doesn't count
 
#12
Although others have found a way of making games more realistic

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/war/new-'call-of-duty'-to-include-six-months-in-helmand-200911112219/
 
#14
One of the most violent games I have played in recent years in the simple amount of numbers you have to kill and the artistic slow-motion close ups of their deaths with various body parts flying about is Fallout 3.

This is the same Fallout 3 that received critical acclaim for its play on the choices of good and evil and their effects.

Make an evil choice for immediate gain and later on you see the often horrifying results....however this is still a game with very adult content ( you should see some of the user-made mods for the PC ) and huge amounts of carnage.

You can be running around in a power armoured suit, with a laser gatling and be mowing down dozens of genetically modified mutants crawling out of the ruins of an alternative....post apocalyptic 1950,s inspired universe set in the future around Washington DC.....at what point in that description could a normal person get confused between fantasy and real-life?
 
#15
BaldBaBoon said:
You can be running around in a power armoured suit, with a laser gatling and be mowing down dozens of genetically modified mutants crawling out of the ruins of an alternative....post apocalyptic 1950,s inspired universe set in the future around Washington DC.....at what point in that description could a normal person get confused between fantasy and real-life?
A gamer visiting Wales or Cornwall could quite easily get confused and think they were surrounded by genetically modfied mutants
 
#16
kes1 said:
BaldBaBoon said:
You can be running around in a power armoured suit, with a laser gatling and be mowing down dozens of genetically modified mutants crawling out of the ruins of an alternative....post apocalyptic 1950,s inspired universe set in the future around Washington DC.....at what point in that description could a normal person get confused between fantasy and real-life?
A gamer visiting Wales or Cornwall could quite easily get confused and think they were surrounded by genetically modfied mutants
yarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
 
#18
DeltaDog said:
Surely the principle concept of a console game is to allow you to do something you wouldn't/couldn't do in real life?
Really? Then where is the "shagging your wife's sister" simulator that we are all waiting for then?
 
#19
Bazzinho1977 said:
DeltaDog said:
Surely the principle concept of a console game is to allow you to do something you wouldn't/couldn't do in real life?
Really? Then where is the "shagging your wife's sister" simulator that we are all waiting for then?
Re-read my post. Things you wouldn't do in real life.
 
#20
SWAT 4 ... they gave you some cracking assault weapons in the game but if you actually shot anyone they penalized you ... even if you did shout 'POLICE DROP YOUR WEAPON' and the cnuts were emptying mags at you.
 

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