Gambling - How did you lose your money!

When I was attached to the REME at Aldergrove, every NAAFI break was a card school. We had an RLC storeman attached as well, and he was shockingly bad at cards, lost a fortune every time he played. It was a rush to get a seat at the table when he was there and had money!
 
Don’t know much about it but taking a gamble on leaving the kids alone for a few hours has Certainly made a healthy return for two very professional persons. Apparently.
 
Never played cards, never bet on horses or the dogs.
Never done any online gambling on anything at all.

I do a line on the national lottery every Saturday and swmbo does the postcode lottery.
 

maguire

LE
Book Reviewer
Don’t know much about it but taking a gamble on leaving the kids alone for a few hours has Certainly made a healthy return for two very professional persons. Apparently.
pfffft. like it was a gamble. allegedly.
 

sirbhp

LE
Book Reviewer
Never played cards, never bet on horses or the dogs.
Never done any online gambling on anything at all.

I do a line on the national lottery every Saturday and swmbo does the postcode lottery.
I bet you do ...
 

FORMER_FYRDMAN

LE
Book Reviewer
Crown and Anchor goes back to the early 1800's in the UK, when it was a game known as "Sweat Cloth," which just used three dice and their numbers instead of the iconic symbols. In the US this became Chuck-a-luck, known for its distinctive "birdcage," containing the three dice. It is apparently still a popular side game in legal casinos there to this day, although it doesn't get as much action as it once did.

Its appeal for the hard of thinking was and is the operator's oft-repeated cry of, "Three winners and three losers, can't say fairer than that, can I?" That would be correct if only it were true, which it isn't; if you list all the ways the three dice can fall, then multiply that by the six units bet on a full board, you'll find the operator makes a profit of 102 units for every 1296 units bet.

That's a House Percentage of 7.8%, if the dice are fair. John Scarne and others have revealed a crooked birdcage was a popular item sold by certain mail order houses; this, using a built in electromagnet and so-called "magnetic dice," allowed the operator to increase the chance of doublets or triplets being thrown, thereby increasing his profit.

Gambling wasn't tolerated in the Australian Army, although it was "winked at," on paydays, Regimental Days such as Long Tan Day for 6RAR (18th August) and Melbourne Cup Day, (the first Tuesday in November). Card games were popular though, 500 being a favourite. If you know 500 you'll know there is a "Lay down Misere," rule whereby you just lay down your hand showing you will lose every trick.

ORs often wouldn't play that, they'd sneeringly say, if anyone asked, "We work for a living, and we'll have no 'Gentleman's Hand,' in our game!" On occasions when gambling was winked at, Blackjack was popular, as was a murderous game called 'Guts,' where two cards were dealt, face up, with the bettor wagering the next card would fall in between them, he being entitled to bet up to the entire pool if he wished, or some minimum bet.
When I was young and foolish, I travelled half way round the world with some Aussies and Kiwis who taught me 500 (and Euchre, which I never really warmed to). Two of us got as far as Bali and 500 against Antipodeans fresh from Cheese and Vegemite Sandwich-eating competitions, and yet to learn the unwisdom of mixing cards and booze, kept us fed and watered for the week or so between arriving in Kuta Beach and departing from Denpassar.

For me, the three hole cards give 500 an edge that Bridge lacks (and that unknown tends to stuff up Bridge players and make them underbid) and it's always worth the look on your partner's face when bidding Open Misere. It's a great game but it's difficult to find people who play it in the UK - it is, however, a staple of golfing trips so I can at least win at something following the ritual humiliation inherent in playing 18 holes with my skill level.
 
After finishing a job in Las Vegas my coworker Tom and I fancied playing roulette for a bit of fun. Playing at the MGM Grand we were missing much more than we were hitting obviously and our 'spendable' funds dropped down to just $40 between us. Then I spotted a streak of reds on another table so I asked the pit boss if it was OK to take my remaining chip over there, "of course you can" she said and off I fucked missing the "sucker" part of her sentence.

The first try, 11 red streak, my chip is on black, boom black it is my $5 is now $10, I see another table streaking and did the same, I waited 3 spins, yaaay, my $10 is $20. I go grab Tommy and we spent an hour or so playing streaks. We managed to rack up $280 and convinced we are the smartest roulette players ever we spotted yet another streak, it must have been 12 blacks, down goes $20 on red, black, $20 down red, black, $40 red, black, bollox, $40 red, black, 'kin ell, 16 blacks, $40 red, black again, this cannot continue...$60 red, single green, ffs...$40 RED......

The following morning Tommy and I shared a sandwich and a coffee at the airport with our last $10 bucks. Fuck you Vegas !!









** We were not broke broke, it was just our job & travel expense dough we lost.
 

FORMER_FYRDMAN

LE
Book Reviewer
After finishing a job in Las Vegas my coworker Tom and I fancied playing roulette for a bit of fun. Playing at the MGM Grand we were missing much more than we were hitting obviously and our 'spendable' funds dropped down to just $40 between us. Then I spotted a streak of reds on another table so I asked the pit boss if it was OK to take my remaining chip over there, "of course you can" she said and off I fucked missing the "sucker" part of her sentence.

The first try, 11 red streak, my chip is on black, boom black it is my $5 is now $10, I see another table streaking and did the same, I waited 3 spins, yaaay, my $10 is $20. I go grab Tommy and we spent an hour or so playing streaks. We managed to rack up $280 and convinced we are the smartest roulette players ever we spotted yet another streak, it must have been 12 blacks, down goes $20 on red, black, $20 down red, black, $40 red, black, bollox, $40 red, black, 'kin ell, 16 blacks, $40 red, black again, this cannot continue...$60 red, single green, ffs...$40 RED......

The following morning Tommy and I shared a sandwich and a coffee at the airport with our last $10 bucks. **** you Vegas !!









** We were not broke broke, it was just our job & travel expense dough we lost.
I've only ever bet in a Casino once. Set myself a thirty quid limit and lasted ten minutes. Monte Carlo is safe from my predations.
 
I've only ever bet in a Casino once. Set myself a thirty quid limit and lasted ten minutes. Monte Carlo is safe from my predations.
Did similar in Vegas - I went there for a 7-day stag do.

I put $200 aside for gambling, and lost the lot. One of the blokes won enough to cover his entire cost of the trip - however at 2300 whilst we were out getting table service from lingerie-clad models, he was crouched over a table somewhere in the casino.
 

FORMER_FYRDMAN

LE
Book Reviewer
Did similar in Vegas - I went there for a 7-day stag do.

I put $200 aside for gambling, and lost the lot. One of the blokes won enough to cover his entire cost of the trip - however at 2300 whilst we were out getting table service from lingerie-clad models, he was crouched over a table somewhere in the casino.
A friend of mine would have done something similar on the ferry, following a rugby tour in Cork, if only Wales had been an hour closer...
 
I've only ever bet in a Casino once. Set myself a thirty quid limit and lasted ten minutes. Monte Carlo is safe from my predations.
Over the years I did 7 installs in Las Vegas and only ever gambled that once0. It really doesn't interest me at all.

I sat at the hotel bar one time and they had flat screen slot machines on the bar top. A note on each said something like 'No service if you are not playing'. I ordered and received a few drinks without playing no problem. A well dressed black guy sat down next to me and ordered a drink, the bartender pointed at the notice so the guy dropped a coin in and got served. I ordered another no slot play and got served he ordered another but got another point to the sign. It was blatantly racist but when I apologised to the black dude he shrugged it off with a "Thank you Sir, it's not necessary I'm used to it." We went on to have a great chat, it turned out he had his own company stand at the same show I was doing my install at.
Fuck Vegas.
 
First met a big gambler in Blandford Camp R.Sigs in 1983. Both of us were Cpls and got on well with the pre Falklands training. On a night went down town. Man he could drink and loved to gamble. Jamaican by birth , one kidney . He spent hundred on the slot machines in the take away as we waited for a taxi.


“Man you need to speculate to accumulate.”

On the Uganda on the way down he was always in the Matlows mess after the bar closed , lost loads on uckers and cribbage.

Up Mt Kent it was cards.

We met up again in Catterick in 86. Both returning from Germany. Now he was into the horses.

Got done for D and D on the way back after spending all his money in the bookies in Richmond. He ran out of petrol on the way back to camp and some nice policemen stopped to help him.

Lost his license , had to sell his left hand drive car for 1/10 of it’s value.

Still made it of the board to Sgt in 87.

Back to the Falklands late 87, he got geographically disorientated when duty tech one night and passing the message to his oppo on the radio....


“Err I think we are in a mine field.“

Weeks after , in the mess he was running up and down a BMX ramp ( why it was in the mess? who knows”).

Did a 360 spin , great, then a 180 and fell off the top smashing his arm/elbow. Casevac back to the UK.
 
Prior to my golden balls posting to SHAPE, I barely had the balls to put 20p in a fruit machine.
SHAPE had it's own gaming room with fruit machines basically. However, a few of the machines would give you odds of 144;1 for a single bet. The most popular one was a dice machine that threw 3 dice at every turn. Me and Mrs Biff would make a months wages in a night, regularly. In fact we were embarrassed for some of the punters who would lose money hand over fist on lower chance bets. Some of the American service personnel, (predominantly black females) would come straight from work in uniform and spend all night feeding the bandits. We consciously decided to bin it when we saw the same people coming in with their rugrats in a pram.
Fast forward 20 years and we used to do Vegas every other year. Roulette is/was my go to gamble, Mrs Biff sticks to the machines. Over the years I've found that the games that the casino can influence, i.e. fiddle with the odds, the less chance you have of winning, whereas, the games of pure chance, have better returns. I am definitely no expert but over the years I reckon I have made 10s of thousands at the tables. In Vegas we used to allow $1k per night loss, each and I can't remember ever losing it. The adage, speculate to accumulate is so very true but you definitely need to be able to walk away and you definitely need to be able to lose and not face any hardship.
Online? You might as well put it in the bin.
 
Used to play poker dice a bit in the squadron bar as to who bought the next round. Loser paid.
My dad grew up in a big card or domino playing family, and taught us kids all the card games, like rummy, brag and whist.
Dad taught us an odd game of three-handed whist (effectively a dummy hand) which he knew as ‘Sergeant-Major’. The idea being that if you did get the chance to sit down with three other mates for a hand the sergeant-major would send one off on an errand.
I‘ve never had any head for cards and this one was over my little head
 

anglo

LE
I was on a trade training course, one of the lads was always gambling, in 38 weeks I never saw him lose money,
One Saturday night we went for a drink down the local working mans club, stood at the bar when the one arm bandit became available, "got a sixpenny bit" says he, I only had one, "that's all I need" says he,
in went the coin, and he pulled the handle, then he shouted to the barman, "give me a tray",
Barman picked up a tray and waited, clunk clunk clunk went the machine and pissed out a jackpot
few years later there was an incident on a missile site that should have killed him, he walked away
with no injuries, the luckiest bar steward I've I known
 

Gout Man

LE
Book Reviewer
A mate and I frequented the casino in Berlin, quite posh so it were, had to show your passport to gain entry.
My mate had a system, DM5 on black, lose, 10, lose 20, yep put 40 then 80. So if 80 won we got back the 80 + 80, however we had gambled and lost 75 previous to that so it was a hell of a sweat just to win 5DM.
Then if he was feeling flush he’d put ten on a number and cover it on all corners and the sides, a bloody fortune riding and that did actually come up a few times.
They had a lovely restaurant and bar at the casino and I had many a nice steak meal there. Haven’t set foot in a casino since, haven’t so much as gambled a penny except for on the lotto occasionally and The National.
That was thirty nine years ago that I last walked into one of those places and placed a bet on that silly roulette game.
 
I knew this chap when he was a Gold Sergeant... went on to be commissioned, MBE, QGM, MiD, President of the Manchester Grenadier Guards Association went on to take his own life following prison.

An army major who received the Queen's Gallantry Medal for bravery has been jailed for stealing more than £70,000 from army cadets.​

Joseph Sandison, a former soldier decorated for his actions in Northern Ireland, took money from Hereford and Worcester Army Cadet Force to fund a gambling addiction.​

Another Manchester worker who liked to have a little flutter once in a while...
Finance worker at airline catering firm who blew so much of her bosses' money on online gambling she got VIP status is jailed for four years for swindling £680,000​

A destructive illness I suppose. Happily, an illness I am completely immune to.
 
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