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#1
I know this is an army website but thought i would ask this.

The hanging gallows in HMS Drake are the only offical working gallows in uk, does that count for europe?

Plus i know you can still get hung for treason and arson to MOD property, but how bad would it have to be for that to happen?
 
#2
I think they repealed the treason thing - you can't be executed in UK at all. The Isle of Man still has the death penalty for murder, you can be sentenced to death but it is always commuted to life in prison. I am presuming that this means they have a gallows of some description?
 
#4
Anya1982 said:
I know this is an army website but thought i would ask this.

The hanging gallows in HMS Drake are the only offical working gallows in uk, does that count for europe?

Plus i know you can still get hung for treason and arson to MOD property, but how bad would it have to be for that to happen?
They may be working but we have totally abolished the death penalty in all its forms for all offences(by the back door by signing up to european legislation on human rights etc)

So the only way to execute someone officially in Britain today is to give him a table leg/Umbrella/Vacuum cleaner tube,send him into the street and phone the police :lol:
 
#5
galgenberg said:
Anya1982 said:
I know this is an army website but thought i would ask this.

The hanging gallows in HMS Drake are the only offical working gallows in uk, does that count for europe?

Plus i know you can still get hung for treason and arson to MOD property, but how bad would it have to be for that to happen?
They may be working but we have totally abolished the death penalty in all its forms for all offences(by the back door by signing up to european legislation on human rights etc)

So the only way to execute someone officially in Britain today is to give him a table leg/Umbrella/Vacuum cleaner tube,send him into the street and phone the police :lol:
Or put out a contract. I,m all yours for £15k :wink:
 
#6
Balliwich of Guerney (Guerney, Sark and Aldernay) still have death for treason on their books (not subject to the EU laws and regs)!

mind, you can still beat your wife in Sark (on Sunday's only, and as long as the stick is no thicker than her thumb)!!!!!! 8O
 
#7
The last civilian gallows were in Wandsworth prison. They were kept for the Treason, Piracy and Arson in a Naval Dockyard offences, but were dismantled in the early '90s, before the offences ceased to be capital.

Doesn't the army still have the death penalty for crimes like assisting the enemy in wartime?
 
#12
So what is now the punishment for Desertion (I know spelling) under fire? And do the Military Jails (Not that I would know!!) still have the book telling you what you can be killed for?????
 
#13
Tango34_UK said:
So what is now the punishment for Desertion (I know spelling) under fire?-You get sent home in disgrace! And do the Military Jails (Not that I would know!!) still have the book telling you what you can be killed for????? See my last about Deepcut
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#14
firestarter said:
Tango34_UK said:
So what is now the punishment for Desertion (I know spelling) under fire?-You get sent home in disgrace! And do the Military Jails (Not that I would know!!) still have the book telling you what you can be killed for????? See my last about Deepcut
In the 18th century wars against the French, the ultimate punishment for cowardice by soldiers of a Highland regiment would have been to have "their names put up in the kirk" back home.

I dont believe that sanction ever needed to be applied.
 
#15
hackle said:
firestarter said:
Tango34_UK said:
So what is now the punishment for Desertion (I know spelling) under fire?-You get sent home in disgrace! And do the Military Jails (Not that I would know!!) still have the book telling you what you can be killed for????? See my last about Deepcut
In the 18th century wars against the French, the ultimate punishment for cowardice by soldiers of a Highland regiment would have been to have "their names put up in the kirk" back home.

I dont believe that sanction ever needed to be applied.
THE THIN RED LINE[/!!!!!
 
#16
Anya1982 said:
I know this is an army website but thought i would ask this.

The hanging gallows in HMS Drake are the only offical working gallows in uk, does that count for europe?

Plus i know you can still get hung for treason and arson to MOD property, but how bad would it have to be for that to happen?
I would dispute the word 'Official' HMS Drake may well have a working gallows, but that does not mean the MOD or Admiralty have maintained them for military executions. Many prisons had trapdoors into the 1980's and in at least one case the drop still exsists, even if the trapdoor has been removed.
 
#17
I would dispute the word 'Official' HMS Drake may well have a working gallows, but that does not mean the MOD or Admiralty have maintained them for military executions. Many prisons had trapdoors into the 1980's and in at least one case the drop still exsists, even if the trapdoor has been removed.
Gallows in Guz Dockyard musuem still has trap doors and still in working oreder, only thing to stop it working is the pad lock on the handle to the trap door.

I used to work in that musuem, well if you could call strolling in at 9am and leaving at 12pm mon to thrus lol Damn the navy know how to doss
 
#19
But it doesn't state that HMS Victory is part of the naval fleet in working huh..........thats a very famous and historical ship and while it still stands its still part of navy.

But this is not the subject
 

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#20
far2young2die said:
I think they repealed the treason thing - you can't be executed in UK at all. The Isle of Man still has the death penalty for murder, you can be sentenced to death but it is always commuted to life in prison. I am presuming that this means they have a gallows of some description?
This is from the Human Rights Act 1988 (c) HMSO:

THE SIXTH PROTOCOL
ARTICLE 1
ABOLITION OF THE DEATH PENALTY
The death penalty shall be abolished. No one shall be condemned to such penalty or executed.

ARTICLE 2
DEATH PENALTY IN TIME OF WAR
A State may make provision in its law for the death penalty in respect of acts committed in time of war or of imminent threat of war; such penalty shall be applied only in the instances laid down in the law and in accordance with its provisions. The State shall communicate to the Secretary General of the Council of Europe the relevant provisions of that law.

Rather puts the kibosh on the "hang 'em and flog 'em" wing of the Tory Party.
 

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