Regardless of what veh Wavell, SAS/MC or Radio Relay it was classed as a AFV 439. However this aint no Ptarmigan Veh I've ever seen. If you look at the size of the mast it's huge and wrong side for a relay. Scam 70ft maybe?? one gene? does look like the cable frames on the left hand side. Maybe some spec veh (EW??) or a shite representation.
Looks like an attempt to model one of the Vampire converted 432's that 14 Sigs were equipped with for Op Granby - first time the British Army had put armoured EW kit into the field. I don't think they received any particular designation - they were bog standard FV432, so there were none of the quad connectors on either side, nor the armoured bin on the back for the various other kinds of comms hardwiring on the outside.
It looks to me like a 432 with a fcuk off big pencil on the roof, RR panzers had the mast located centraly for the sole purpose of having even more clutter to catch your cam net in...oh how I used to love doing that, 2am just got into loc..wet tired cold, no night vision then some prat comes along and tells you to cam up and do it with your webbing on and carrying your rifle...joyous
Why did we ever bother to cam up? all the soxmis had to do was follow the lorry delivering the porta bogs...mmmmmmmm comradeski why do you think they are delivering 5 porta bogs to the top of a deserted hill, ah comrade ivanov, thats easy, comcen yankee are on the move and they are shit
Hi all - and RTG here who's only just rejoined the site. Saw this thread and it set me off thinking. I was at Paderborn in the old 202 (33 Armd Bde) Sig Sqn in the days when the FV432's we had were actually younger than those driving them - not twice the age !
I've kinda lost touch with what the Corps is using now - but have heard FV435 / FV436 mentioned alongside the usual '432 and '439.
Without going into too much detail how the **** does an old boy like me tell them apart ?!
Looks like an Armoured SAS/MC to me - AFV439 etc etc - seems to have been a catch all designation for any specialist comms wagon with Ptarmigan - be it Msg Centre, Radio Relay or Wavell - they were all the same when they were being dished out at 1 Div in 1985, despite them all being totally different! The staff wagons were referred to in some documentation I remember seeing as being ASV436 (Armoured Staff Vehicle)