Fuzz on the march

#1
More than 20,000 off-duty police officers take to the streets - Telegraph

Thoughts? Currently I think I'm right in saying it's not legally possible to make a police officer of less than 30 years service redundant so, unless they cock up, there's no way of getting rid of them?

I find it pretty remarkable - the services are grinding the axe ever lower but the bobbies seem to want special treatment.
 

ugly

LE
Moderator
#2
I find it difficult to raise any sympathy myself but I might be happier if MPs were taking pay and allowance cuts and working longer hours, not getting subsidised meals, reducing their non contrib pension payouts, need I go on?
At least they have jobs!
 
#3
Who would be up for a bit of "kettling" lads.
 
#5
There's no doubt they do a tough job etc etc but so do a lot of others on far worse pay and conditions. They get a far better deal than most and we're all in the same boat especially those of us who work for the big firm, I know my pension contributions went up £44 last month, not helped by a three year pay freeze.

It's a big shit sandwich and we've all got to take a bite including plod.
 
#6
#7
Don't you know 'were all in this together'

Second Ugly's statement, MP's lead by example & never mind just a freeze on pay.
 
#8
More than 20,000 off-duty police officers take to the streets - Telegraph

Thoughts? Currently I think I'm right in saying it's not legally possible to make a police officer of less than 30 years service redundant so, unless they cock up, there's no way of getting rid of them?

I find it pretty remarkable - the services are grinding the axe ever lower but the bobbies seem to want special treatment.
One of the plod talking heads mentioned this yesterday.Seems there is talk of introducing 'fitness tests,and if you fail your out of the job' The guy was saying that he had both legs broken when on duty after he was hit by a car.He has struggled for two years to get to fitness,but he would be sacked if the new fitness regime was introduced.
 
#9
One of the plod talking heads mentioned this yesterday.Seems there is talk of introducing 'fitness tests,and if you fail your out of the job' The guy was saying that he had both legs broken when on duty after he was hit by a car.He has struggled for two years to get to fitness,but he would be sacked if the new fitness regime was introduced.
I would say that is a hysterical reaction. Does he really think that they would not take that into account?

As has been said, they have a tough job, but there are a lot of people doing tougher jobs with a lot less pay. They took the job on knowing what it was about, if they don't like it, they can always leave. There are a lot of people out there who would gladly take their place.
 

ugly

LE
Moderator
#10
exactly and besides its only since Afghanistan that we have had a policy of offering posts to troops badly wounded on ops, in the previous conflicts you would be out on your ear asap and queueing up for your pension!
 
#11
Police do not deserve any special treatment but they do have the right to demonstrate at their T&C of service being messed around with. I know that if the Armed Forces had the same right there would be at least as many of us marching through London to let the country know what we thought of our new pension scheme.
 

ugly

LE
Moderator
#12
We do get the right to march through London, well at least some of us did!
 
#13
We do get the right to march through London, well at least some of us did!
Yeah, but only if you are a boy who fancies other boys
 
#14
Brian Paddick, esrtwhile London Mayor candidate, retired from the police when he was 48 on a pension of 63k:

Paddick’s Return Ken in Meltdown - Guy Fawkes' blog
Probably similar to a Brigadier or similar retiring after 30 years. Paddick was a Deputy Assistant Commissioner, not exactly a fair comparison when the thread concerns members of the police federation (which represents PC's - Ch Inspector) who were marching.Next time there's a thread on army pensions, I'll point out that a recently retired Major-General does alright, what are you lot complaining about?
 
#15
Probably similar to a Brigadier or similar retiring after 30 years. Paddick was a Deputy Assistant Commissioner, not exactly a fair comparison when the thread concerns members of the police federation (which represents PC's - Ch Inspector) who were marching.Next time there's a thread on army pensions, I'll point out that a recently retired Major-General does alright, what are you lot complaining about?
Please stop trying to bring common sense and correct facts to Arrse or I will petition that you be banned from these pages
 

ugly

LE
Moderator
#16
Yeah, but only if you are a boy who fancies other boys
ooh touche, I thought that was Brighton, either way its no longer illegal but I wasnt aware that it was mandatory for membership in the Household Div.
 
#17
It's a big shit sandwich and we've all got to take a bite including plod.
So 'they' say. Funny how there's always enough in the pot for things 'they' want. Another ten billion pissed up the wall a fortnight ago to prop up the Euro, a currency we don't even belong to. Plenty to spunk on a fortnight of running and jumping.

Yet when it comes to pensions, street sweepers and libraries, suddenly it's a case of the cupboard's bare.
 

skid2

LE
Book Reviewer
#18
One public servant, he was pounced on for not striking. He said he supported those on strike but disagreed with having to work until he was 67. Paramedic and wondered about the wisdom of having ambulancepeople in their mid sixties speeding round the country at 3am. Clambering over rubble and attending upturned vehicles in ditches. It does seem madness
 
#19
One public servant, he was pounced on for not striking. He said he supported those on strike but disagreed with having to work until he was 67. Paramedic and wondered about the wisdom of having ambulancepeople in their mid sixties speeding round the country at 3am. Clambering over rubble and attending upturned vehicles in ditches. It does seem madness
By then the important people, you know, politicians and bankers, will have BUPA ambulances to rescue them, so it's a non-issue really.
 
#20
They took the job on knowing what it was about, if they don't like it, they can always leave.
The thing is that there have been some fairly material changes in TaCoS, so perhaps they didn't know what the job was about.

Anyway, looking at the pictures in Metro today it must have been a bumper day for branches of Greggs & Krispy Kreme in central London yesterday :wink:
 
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