Future of multiculturalism...

#1
Deliberately kept this out of the NAAFI so lets not go off on a mad racist diatribe this time...

Times Higher Education - Raising the bars a 'moral' matter

London Met's large Muslim population makes booze 'culturally sensitive'.

The vice-chancellor of London Metropolitan University is considering banning the sale of alcohol in some parts of the institution's campus because a "high percentage" of his students consider drinking to be "immoral".

Malcolm Gillies said he was "not a great fan of alcohol on campus", adding that the issue was one of "cultural sensitivity".

Noting that about 20 per cent of London Met's students are Muslim, he said that "because there's no majority ethnic group, I think it [selling alcohol] is playing to particular parts of our society much more [than to others]".

"It's a negative experience - in fact an immoral experience - for a high percentage of our students," he told an audience at the Association of University Administrators' annual conference in Manchester on 3 April.
Interesting...
 
#5
I would fire up the outrage bus, but having finished my degree many years ago I am unlikely to want to return to somewhere like London Metropolitan University (Formerly World of Carpets, Baker Street) where large bunches of superannuated foreign "mature students" who live at home with their families go to read vocational degrees so I can't be arrsed.
 
#7
Dear Pyianno, I don't see why you need to bring this matter up. It's outrageous.

As a good arrser I think you'll know the feelings and sentiment that the subject of alcohol brings to these pages. hardly a day goes - is day goes PC acceptable? - by on Arrse without someone mentioning the demon drink. A very high proportion of us on these hallowed pages wouldn't dream of touching the stuff... my arrse, see you down the Mess! Mine's a can of Red Stripe...

Anyway, to quote the journalist; "Malcolm Gillies said he was "not a great fan of alcohol on campus", adding that the issue was one of "cultural sensitivity". Cultural sensitivity? What about the abuse or grooming of our kids, the abuse of Blue Badges as shown in a tv documentary from Slough or that, so called, Landlord as shown on tv's "Cowboy Traders" last night, Benefit scams by the truck load? Cultural sensitivity... if you want to live here etc. etc.

TAXI!!... and make it bullet-proof as we are not allowed to say what the majority of us think thanks to goody-goodies.
 
#8
I would fire up the outrage bus, but having finished my degree many years ago I am unlikely to want to return to somewhere like London Metropolitan University (Formerly World of Carpets, Baker Street) where large bunches of superannuated foreign "mature students" who live at home with their families go to read vocational degrees so I can't be arrsed.
This is the university with offices in-
Bangladesh
Nigeria
Pakistan
Nepal
India
Belgium
China
Isn't it?
The same university obliged to pay back many many millions to the government after neglecting to mention how many students dropped out?
The same university that apologised to China for giving the Dalai Lama a doctorate or some such?

Seem like a bunch of five star muppets
 
#9
I've no problem with the university establishing its own standards of conduct, however...

Recruits are forbidden alcohol in the block at some establishments/courses (so that's fair, but this seems different).

But what I would fear is the "spiral to purity" where you see almost the Mutawwa (Saudi Religious Police) spring up. You know, checking people holding hands are married, etc. it is the reason why the jilbab is not allowed as school uniform, as there is a religious uniform option and one person doing their own is a threat to the coehesion of the wider school (crikey, look at the fury wearing your beret like a flat cap with the capbadge over the left eye generates here!)

Thing is it spreads first amoungst a certain population, with peer pressure to comply. Then it may create friction with other faith groups (or those of no faith). You end up with a fractured community and some self-isolating groups. So it is a lot like the wider UK in the way it is going.

Course, what Malcolm Gillies might wish to guard against is the sort of hot-housing that leads to dislike of a syllabus and ends up in this;

BBC News - RE teacher Gary Smith's Muslim attackers jailed

(Basically, 4 lads beat an RE teacher unconscious with an iron bar for disapproving of his teaching).

We had this atmosphere at my uni in the mid-1990s, when there was Al-Muhajiroun on the campus. Creating all sort of problems with Sikh students and just generally life at uni. Couldn't go anywhere without an allegation of Islamaphobia or racism. I was minding my own business reading a book at Salahudin and next thing I knew I couldn't get rid of the bearded zealots. Cheerful at first, agreeing he was a Muslim hero and then basically saying if I didn't convert I was due for hellfire.

British Universities (especially in bits of London) have their heads up their arse in the toleration of the slippery slope to extremist violence. As one failed or successful terrorist emerges, they say "Oh must have been radicalised elsewhere" and blame everyone else but themselves.

I'd no more tolerate a Student's Union policy which would assist in making the Angry Brigade or other secular extremist group possible. I don't equally think those Jewish areas of London with certain areas "wired off" for movement during the Sabbath, etc. Seems too much like a Ghetto, but as long as it isn't forced outside a Jewish faith community.

For starters on religious loons there's the white-wash job UCL did of Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, Taimour Abdulwahab al-Abdaly from the University of Bedfordshire at Luton, Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh of the LSE, those four jokers I linked to on the BBC. I'm sure there are more, and different ones too.

I accept universities are not there to police their students, but it seems they don't co-operate when those whose job it is to police find where the opportuinity for radicalisation occurs.
 
#11
The future of Multiculturalism, I can see a time when all pubs in Tower Hamlets are closed, licences revoked. Oh not in the to distant future.
 
#12
UK unis manage difference rather brilliantly. VCs do need to have the courage to assert home heritage and practices as worthy of interest to overseas' students rather than deny their significance; they're naughty if they don't. Upper North Twiddles Morris Men is a clincher for many a Chinese student, providing a lifelong source of reflection.
 

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#15
This person said:
Noting that about 20 per cent of London Met's students are Muslim, he said that "because there's no majority ethnic group, I think it [selling alcohol] is playing to particular parts of our society much more [than to others]".
So there is no majority ethnic group. Does that mean that there four other ethnic groups?
Just another pathetic attempt to alter our way of life to the requirement of one person but likely to be successful with the present "fruits and nuts" we seem to have in control.
 
#16
London Met isn't a university and anyone who insists it is should be bastinadoed.

I'm also prepared to wager the twats who're complaining are home-grown - one of the big draws of UK study to Middle Eastern students is the chance to get pissed and shag slappers.

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#17
So, as far as I can glean from the article, no Muslim student has actually complained, and it's in fact another middle class, worrisome old Academic duffer arriving at his own conclusions?
 
#18
So, as far as I can glean from the article, no Muslim student has actually complained, and it's in fact another middle class, worrisome old Academic duffer arriving at his own conclusions?
The 'worrisome old duffer' is a Vice-Chancellor and therefore statistically unlikely to have ever taught or conducted research.

It's more likely to be part of their strategic business plan aimed at achieving measurables in a key demographic or some such gobbledygook.

If it's been sent from my HTC Sensation using Tapatalk then I'm probably pissed.
 
#19
Straight from wiki.

Multiculturalism is an ideology that promotes the institutionalisation of communities containing multiple cultures. It is generally applied to the demographic make-up of a specific place, usually at the organizational level, e.g. schools, businesses, neighborhoods, cities, or nations.

In a political context the term is used for a wide variety of meanings, ranging from the advocacy of equal respect to the various cultures in a society, to a policy of promoting the maintenance of cultural diversity, to policies in which people of various ethnic and religious groups are addressed by the authorities as defined by the group they belong to.[1][2] A common aspect of many such policies is that they avoid presenting any specific ethnic, religious, or cultural community values as central.[3]

Multiculturalism is often contrasted with the concepts of assimilationism and has been described as a "salad bowl" or "cultural mosaic" rather than a "melting pot."[4]

I shall take just one phrase from that:

"equal respect to the various cultures in a society"

By definition a multi cultural uni should have areas where you can do what your culture allows/demands. In the case of British students this would mean a bar with alcohol and a place to get naked and be an ********!
 
#20
London Met isn't a university and anyone who insists it is should be bastinadoed.

I'm also prepared to wager the twats who're complaining are home-grown - one of the big draws of UK study to Middle Eastern students is the chance to get pissed and shag slappers.

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To be fair, that's one of the fun parts of Middle Eastern Studies too.

As long as it's done in the UK :)
 

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