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Future bodyarmour?

#2
looks to be a useful bit of kit - took some majoramount of punishment!

the grenade test was good - but you'd still suffer BABT, Behind Armour Blunt Trauma - but hopefully not multiple fragmentations
 
#4
Nah , looking at the curent lardy youth of today I offer you the Puppy (fat) armour system , top 'em up with burgers and fries, and available in Burburry™ cammo, innit.

WW
 
#5
Impressive against the AK 7.62 x 39 round. That is one of the highest KE dispersing rounds in common use at the moment.

I don't think that IMHO a british soldier would turn down the opportunity to have that armour in place of current issue.



fastmedic
 
#6
fastmedic said:
Impressive against the AK 7.62 x 39 round. That is one of the highest KE dispersing rounds in common use at the moment.

I don't think that IMHO a british soldier would turn down the opportunity to have that armour in place of current issue.



fastmedic
Funny, a sceptic mate told me he'd seen it trialed at Fort Jackson(?).

According to him, it was good stuff over 100 yards distance but suffered lethal penetrations from 5.56 under it. How it's stands up to 7.62 he never said, but I doubt it would deal with it any better than NATO 5.56mm, surely?

{edited: because I'm a sausage fingered cnut.}
 
#8
DPM_Sheep said:
Funny, a sceptic mate told me he'd seen it trialed at Fort Jackson(?).

According to him, it was good stuff over 100 yards distance but suffered lethal penetrations from 5.56 under it. How it's stands up to 7.62 he never said, but I doubt it would deal with it any better than NATO 5.56mm, surely?

{edited: because I'm a sausage fingered cnut.}
Good chance that was 5.56 greentip ammo, though. The tungsten penetrator stuff. It seems the armour that stuff doesn't go through under a 100 yrds has yet to be made...

Just saying: doesn't have to mean it wouldn't stand up to 7.62 Russian at those ranges...
 
#9
The Dragon skin has been proven against green tip ammo.

Unmatched in its capabilities, the SOV™ flexible body armor system offers the following features in Level III, IV & V body armor:

* Ballistic Capability
MIL-STD SOV-2000™

The MIL-STD SOV-2000™ Level III flexible body armor system will defeat the following rifle rounds that normally fall into the Level IV category and all lesser threats.

o 7.62 x 39 mm 122 GR, steel case mild steel core: 2300 - 2400 fps.
o 5.56 x 45 mm 65 GR, M855 (SS109 Green tip): 3200 - 3300 fps.

Additionally, the SOV™ - D.O.D. 2000 flexible Level III system exceeds the MIL-P-46593A fragmentation requirements around the high power rifle defeating areas.
This video is impressive - http://www.pinnaclearmor.com/video/ak47-9mm-outdoor.wmv

SOV-2000™ Outdoor Ballistic Test Shoot
AK47 7.62x39mm - 40 Rounds at 20 ft
& 9mm 9x19mm - 150 rounds at 10 ft
 
#11
Maybe we can get it issued to our forces with a nice Tony Blair Renovation replacing everything that isn't just bog standard fabric with with what the labour party describe as the latest technology in Assured Impact Resiliance - ie. air

It does make sense though, having it layered/interlocked so that the impact is spread out. Kind of a surprise it hadn't been thought of a while ago.
 
#14
Ha!...New fangled inventions!

We`ll just recommision all the old chain mail armour thats lurking around in various Museums - We did it with the FV432 so it should be OK with Body Armour.

seriously though - it certainly looks as if it delivers the goods - its just a shame that it in all probability will not help save British lives!
 
#15
Now to do something about those pesky limbs, neck and face :D

It certainly looks very impressive, but no doubt if the MoD got hold of it, after numerous trials, modifications and paperwork, it would be whittled down to CS95 material.
 
#16
I wonder if it would stop this ammo fired from the FN p90

The SS190 is the 5.7x28 mm Ball round. Its projectile will perforate any individual protection on today's battlefield including the PASGT kevlar helmet, 48 layers of kevlar body armor and the CRISAT target (titanium and kevlar). The SS190's conventional design allows it to be manufactured on existing production lines, and its lead-free composition eliminates range contamination.
 
#17
The_0ne said:
The Dragon skin has been proven against green tip ammo.

Unmatched in its capabilities, the SOV™ flexible body armor system offers the following features in Level III, IV & V body armor:

* Ballistic Capability
MIL-STD SOV-2000™

The MIL-STD SOV-2000™ Level III flexible body armor system will defeat the following rifle rounds that normally fall into the Level IV category and all lesser threats.

o 7.62 x 39 mm 122 GR, steel case mild steel core: 2300 - 2400 fps.
o 5.56 x 45 mm 65 GR, M855 (SS109 Green tip): 3200 - 3300 fps.

Additionally, the SOV™ - D.O.D. 2000 flexible Level III system exceeds the MIL-P-46593A fragmentation requirements around the high power rifle defeating areas.
This video is impressive - http://www.pinnaclearmor.com/video/ak47-9mm-outdoor.wmv

SOV-2000™ Outdoor Ballistic Test Shoot
AK47 7.62x39mm - 40 Rounds at 20 ft
& 9mm 9x19mm - 150 rounds at 10 ft

The rounds quoted are basic 'ball' ammunition (even though 7.62x39 has a mild steel core), and not particularly difficult to defeat.

Without going into too much detail, the Osprey plate (and equivalent US SAPI) are designed against a much higher threat, and both use one of the most expensive armour materials available.

There really isn't anything new in the Dragonskin design, other than very good marketting.
 
#18
Listen to the guys voice, I had to turn the sound off.

In the 'future weapons test' case, an M16 and AK-47 are not future weapons. I am also suspecting Brown to fund feeding immigrants before he considers money for protection of our troops.
 
#19
id like to see there faces if they let us have a crack at it with a gpmg, mind you it doesnt really mater if the armour stops the round your still gona end up in a different time zone!
 

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