Full Veil ban extended part II

#1
Just out of idle curiousity, why was the original thread closed?

I also have issues with chadors (or however the hell that is spelled), burkas, and headscarfs being worn by muslim females while driving, they have no peripheral vision and are a menace. That being said, most of them look better covered with a tarp...
 
#2
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#3
No idea, however just to ensure my previous comments are not misconstrued. I can find no reference in the Koran to the requirement of a burka or niqab (although niqab was orriginally a word for cloth). It is my opinion that the Prophet Mohammed advised women (and men) to be modest in their state of dress. However, that,like many things in many religions has been twisted out of context and is now used as a tool to suppress women. The concept of modesty is a common thread amongst the religions of the book and all three of the major religions that sprang from the middle east have in the past and in certain circumstances still do apply rules that a more modern secular society find if not disturbing then at least a little odd.
 
#4
No idea, however just to ensure my previous comments are not misconstrued. I can find no reference in the Koran to the requirement of a burka or niqab (although niqab was orriginally a word for cloth). It is my opinion that the Prophet Mohammed advised women (and men) to be modest in their state of dress. However, that,like many things in many religions has been twisted out of context and is now used as a tool to suppress women. The concept of modesty is a common thread amongst the religions of the book and all three of the major religions that sprang from the middle east have in the past and in certain circumstances still do apply rules that a more modern secular society find if not disturbing then at least a little odd.
Looks more like it was binned due to hijack by a rogue outbreak of inter-unit rivalry rather than any untoward Muslim bashing. Just out of interest do you have a picture of the Prophet Mohammed advising women (and men) to be modest in their state of dress?
 
#5
Looks more like it was binned due to hijack by a rogue outbreak of inter-unit rivalry rather than any untoward Muslim bashing. Just out of interest do you have a picture of the Prophet Mohammed advising women (and men) to be modest in their state of dress?
Unfortunately not mate as one of his other edicts is that you can't draw or paint or otherwise represent the human form as its akin to copying Gods work. Guess that makes camera sales a bit of a crap job in Mecca.Again its another odd situation caused by reading a book written over 1000 years ago.

There is Arabic pre Islamic art that depicts people and also art from those parts of the far east that are now Islamic, it seems the more fundamental a region becomes the stronger the tenant is applied. However its pretty much the same the world over irrespective of which religion/belief system the more back to basics it gets the more arrse about face it becomes until such time it is a travesty of its original idea.

If you ever get chance to see the film "dogma" with alan Rickman theres a cracking line in it about mankinds ability to take a simple set of moral rules and build a whole religious system around it.
 
#6
Imagine my surprise when I went into a bank with a balaclava on and they denied my right as an Irishman to wear it !!! Bastards !!! what is the world coming too !!!
 
#9
Whilst there may or may not be reference to women covering themselves in the Koran - there is explicit instruction for christian women to veil themselves in Pauls first letter to the Corinthians.

Quite the bigot is Paul
 
#10
I think there's a problem when trying to justify secular laws through theological debate. If there is a good reason for a state to prohibit Islamic dress, or some types of Islamic dress, then the argument surely needs to be made on secular grounds rather than by arguing about what Mohammed may or may not have intended when he wrote the Koran and the other documents upon which such religious rules and customs are based, or by which they are justified by their proponents.
 
#11
If making of images is banned according to the Koran, how come there are so many pictures of Mecca around?
 
#12
#13
Imagine my surprise when I went into a bank with a balaclava on and they denied my right as an Irishman to wear it !!! Bastards !!! what is the world coming too !!!
The sawn off may have caused them some concern!
 
#16
The various Muslim face coverings should not be banned, no way should laws be made that discriminate against (or for) a religion. What should be done is to enforce laws/rules even evenhandedly.

If hiding your face is inappropriate such as in a shop/bank, going through customs or collecting benefits etc. Then no excuse should be allowed not to do so, based on religion.

One day you might want to cover your face, a balaclava in winter for example. You should be allowed to do so, providing you remove it when appropriate. No laws for or against religion thanks.
 
#17
Becasue as with all religions they bend the rules to fit their own desired out come.

However if you look at islamic art you'll find the majority of it is geometric.

It's because they (Muslims) cannot draw figures or flowers,,,only pretty patterns,,so childlike and simple......
 
#18
I welcome any laws and legislation that makes it harder for dispicable, backwards, primitive cultures to live in the UK.
 
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