FTRS Officers Not Doing Duty Officers

#1
FTRS officer just posted into the HQ.

Says he doesn't wish his name to be on the Duty Officer list for evenings and weekends because he doesn't get paid X Factor, hence is excused "all extra f'ck abouts" (includuing duties).

Chapter and verse anyone?

TY
 
#2
What a cnut...the fuc3ker dont have to do guard duties, so he should do his officer duties or fcuk off and work in a bank if he wants all weekends and evenings off.

If i was his CO, id grip the cnut.
 
#4
Aaaagh! Not chapter or verse, but this is Bullsh1t. Dodgy is the ground this one walks upon. Not doing his best to fit in is he/she/it? Cripes, if I'd pulled that one on the 2 x 3 year FTRS stints I did, I'd have been strung up, rightly so.
Full Time Reserve service is exactly that - Full time.
So, er - string him up!
 
#5
armies, green-slime and staaken I agree.

Previously served with an FTRS Troopy. Primary School Teacher by trade "on the other side". Best troopy in the Regt. We lent him to another Regt for TELIC 1 and their CO thought he was the best Troopy in that Regt too.

This one takes the biscuit though.
 
#7
What about a FTRS bod we had. Got 4 miles into a CFT and pulled out smiling his big fat STAB face saying "in the TA we only need to do 4 miles", he did not last much longer.
 
#9
Sadly for him he is wrong. He gets a reduced X Factor in his pay, he may not get the full amount as he is home service only and therefore not deployable. That is a seperate issue from doing UK based duty, if he refues to complete legitimate tasks, ie duty, then this should be reflected in his CR in the context of his unsuitablity for FTRS. It wont stop his current contract but should stop him ever getting another one.

More confrontationally he is subject to military law, so if you have a higher rank or command authority by post then invite him to attend a brief where you formally order him to complete said duty and document it. If he chooses not to then AGAI or formal charges for disobeying a legitimate command order can be preffered. Cnut can do his FTRS in colchester if he likes.

Had this case before and frontal assault when certain of facts normally results in FTRS Officers humble acceptance of tasks.

If he is ex reg then he should be ashamed, always worth reminding them!
 
#11
This guy is the exception - most FTRS are pretty well motivated and keen to fit in.
This is a definite case for "Day on Day off" for a month - it'll make him a bit more popular with his Reg counterparts, that's for sure.

Good post PL, it's what I wanted to say, but steam was leaking from my ears....
 
#12
Strangely enough,those officers who do the most whinging and schimpfing about the "BLOODY TA......." and its perceived shortcomings usually turn out to be FTRS (on closer inspection of the Army List) :?
 
#13
I can only echo Praetorian's comments.

Also, being a natural born cynic, is he/she a war dodger?
 
#15
Boils my pi55 :pissedoff: , to hear that someone is pulling that card. If you're going to volunteer to take a post with a regular unit then you bleeding well should muck in with the rest and not absolve yourself from duties. Sounds like a medal hunter and jack twit. I bet his TA unit couldn't sign the paperwork fast enough to get rid of him. Shame some reg unit has to put up with him instead.

Hopefully once someone has corrected his thinking on the issue the worst duties will be heading his way!!
 
#16
Does raise an interesting point though. I have just taken up an FTRS post after 30 years in the regulars. It is a 'Home Committment' post which means I get NO X fatctor at all, a point I accepted when I took up the post.
Other than the knowledge that I can't be deployed, I am treated the same as my regular counterparts. I do duties, wear uniform, work riduculous hours, do PT and am on call over easter.
It would be interesting to see a definitive breakdown of the X Factor to see what it is that I am supposed not to be doing in exchange for giving up 14% of my salary (and a hefty slice of my pension).
 
#17
Not certain for exact breakdowns. Are you sure the contract is FTRS not NRPS? NRPS do not get any x factor but FTRS usually do, albeit not at the full rate. Also worth checking is how your salary is calculated, ie how can you tell you are not getting x factor? If your daily rate of pay is less than when you were a regular then it might be MCM pay mistake, or the terms of the FTRS meant that you would not get the same daily rate of pay that you had before you left.

After investigating all of that i would staff a letter to MCM asking for a breakdown of your pay calculation.
 
#18
Papa

Absolutely certain that I am FTRS, and also certain that I get no X factor. If I were cleverer I would give you the link to the Reserves MCM Div page where FTRS jobs are advertised.

I am happy that I am being paid correctly (regular rate less x factor), my point is - how exactly is the X Factor calculated, and therefore how does the lack of x factor affect my terms and conditions of service.
 
#19
In that case the lack of x factor is in respect of not being deployable or moving from fixed location for work. Therefore the x factor, given for the turbulence and risks of military service comparable to civillian counterparts is not being paid in part or in whole.

That is the Army interpretation mind you, not mine.

I would still write to MCM to break the calcualtion down, or soldier magazine for the usual PS(2)A spin.
 
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