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Should the Chain of Command have a role in preparing soldiers for the afterlife?

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  • Maybe, in a weasely up-to-the-individual way

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#1
CGS, "an outspoken avangelical Christian" gave a speech yesterday in which he said that the Army has a duty to prepare soldiers for life after death.

“In my business, asking people to risk their lives is part of the job, but doing so without giving them the chance to understand that there is a life after death is something of a betrayal,” he said.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2681695.ece

Do we think that this is a duty incumbent on the Army?
 
#2
The Rev. Dannatt is the Chairman of SASRA, an evangelical organisation that operates by targetting individuals in units, usually in SLA, NAAFIs and hospital. They wear military-style uniforms and endlessly proof-text.

They refer to death as being 'promoted to glory', which I find rather chillingly similar to islam's '72 virgins' nonsense.
 
#3
ViroBono said:
The Rev. Dannatt is the Chairman of SASRA, an evangelical organisation that operates by targetting individuals in units, usually in SLA, NAAFIs and hospital. They wear military-style uniforms and endlessly proof-text.

They refer to death as being 'promoted to glory', which I find rather chillingly similar to islam's '72 virgins' nonsense.


Old fashions rebranded?
 
#4
Ahhh yesss.

I remember those buggers, they used to swan around barracks etc wearing some type of quasi-WO outfit.

First time I saw one was in BAOR and I called the bugger "Sir" until I twigged he was selling something. I then****ed him off out of the block. I don't mind yer standard issue padres but the Scripture Readers? pah!

How patronising can you get, implying that squaddies are incapable of reading the bible without help?

At least RAChd tpes are real, I'd put the SASRA types in the Walt sector...
 
#5
I notice they only do the Army and the RAF. The Navy are heathens then :D
 
#6
In the sense that the remains should be properly cared for until interred, yes.

Spiritually, I've no problem with them making the facilities available and waiting for the individual to approach of their own volition, but evangelising? No.

Of course, they would have to make other forms of spiritual preparation available. Sauce for the god-bothering goose, after all.
 
#7
You find your own way when the shit hits the fan, my religious devotions involve swearing and giggling like a school girl

There is no God, get your head round that and you'll be fine, I didn't think there was an afterlife but have been told Para's go to some sort of viking holding center, so must be true.

No hats though.........

Padres can be either a waste of skin or excellent assets, either way they should steer well clear of religion in everthing they do, if you see what I mean
 
#9
Petriburg said:
Ord_Sgt said:
I notice they only do the Army and the RAF. The Navy are heathens then :D
Bit difficult walking on water to get to the ships at sea... There's only one bloke on record for having successfully done that. :wink:
Dodgy record. :wink:
 
#11
SO3Paperclips said:
CGS, "an outspoken avangelical Christian" gave a speech yesterday in which he said that the Army has a duty to prepare soldiers for life after death.

“In my business, asking people to risk their lives is part of the job, but doing so without giving them the chance to understand that there is a life after death is something of a betrayal,” he said.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2681695.ece

Do we think that this is a duty incumbent on the Army?
I think it is more incumbent on him ensuring the armed forces get the correct resources if they are to risk their lives. If they wish to spend the after life talking to St Peter and hanging around all day thats up to the individual.
 
#12
Here's a crazy idea. Why don't the Generals consider making my life easier while I am still alive? Rather than preparing me for an eternity of being dead! Never mind the troops, me ol' china, you sort out the politicians and the rest will sort itself out.
 
#13
SO3Paperclips said:
“In my business, asking people to risk their lives is part of the job, but doing so without giving them the chance to understand that there is a life after death is something of a betrayal,” he said.
Perhaps if enough effort was put into giving troops the weapons, kit, equipment and support they need to get the job done, a few less of us would find out about the afterlife a bit earlier than expected?
 
#17
Sorry, hadn't seen it. Broadening it out - how do you feel about the "New Model Army" argument from 25 years ago. An academic and a retired officer wrote a book arguing essentially that a liberal democracy had to have a citizen army full of righteous buggers rather than drunken violent yobs; the pretty clear claim being that a large part of the 1970's army fell into the latter category.

So, was Cromwell right - "He that prays and preaches best will fight best"?
 
#19
Ask the Victorians, a more sober-sided, god-fearing (on the surface at least) bunch you could never hope to meet. They built an enormous Christian empire. Using the scum of the gutter, people who would kill a hundred enemies and perform sterling feats of arms on the understanding that they could then rape and carouse their way to NAAFI break.

Personally I think this fella is deranged. I'd back my drunken comrades against the holy-rollers any day of the week, although preferably not too early in the morning okay and can we keep the shouting down, at least before lunch?
 

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#20
It's a scam. Don't believe a word of it. Only when dead will you reap the benefits of ragging yourself stupid whilst alive.

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