Front National to win French Election 2017?

Who will win the French election in 2017?

  • Marine Le Pen, Front Nationale

    Votes: 180 75.9%
  • Alain Juppé, Republicans

    Votes: 22 9.3%
  • Nicolas Sarkozy, Hot wife

    Votes: 11 4.6%
  • François Hollande, Socialist

    Votes: 5 2.1%
  • Others: French Commies etc.

    Votes: 19 8.0%

  • Total voters
    237
Macron is a pro-EU weak politician, probably tainted by the usual corruption so pervasive in French politics of employing members of his own family in non-jobs-and will not have a long honeymoon period.

The next round of elections in 2022, the Front Nationale will be even stronger, and may even win power.

5 years is a long time for multiple terrorist attacks to happen, and if Macron does not have the cojones to deal with this in a robust manner-which Hollande has not, the Front Nationale will gain in popularity from this.
Pro EU, Pro Open Borders and in the view of some bailed out of mainstream political party in France and went "Independent" solely as a rebranding exercise to put some distance from the toxic Hollande legacy.

Says he is a Patriot attempting to save France from the threat of Nationalism.

He is a Patriot to the EU machine and the vested interests of the EC elite.
 
Is it just me but I am becoming increasingly irked by the BBC persisting in using the term " Far Right Candidate" when referring to Marine Le Pen.

It's pejorative, factually incorrect, and smacks of bias.
 

skid2

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They aren't smart mate, that is why they are reduced to knives and cars, lorries and crowds.
Not smart, or organised nor largely supported by the people of a similar religion that they profess to jihad for.
Just a bunch of losers really, very bad burglars, robbers, shoplifters and petty crims of a certain profile, all of whom were caught, convicted and have done jail time.
Not exactly Ernst Stavros Blofeld any of them, with or without the cat.
Back to politics in France, another socialist government is stuffed.
Again, and self-inflicted.
Does that sound familiar to anyone?

You cannot be serious. You do realise that these Isis fellows have the worldwide backing of an entire religion. They have spent the last couple of centuries worming their way into the welcoming Christian heart of Europe. Only to outbreed us, rise up and slaughter us in our beds, no doubt with the sharpest jihadi grade kitchenware that can be shoplifted from Lidl.

How dare you sir, there are people here warning us to be vigilant and aware of the immediate threat potentially caused by followers of Mo.
I'm not yet convinced, but you can't go round putting up stuff like that.
Interesting to see how France fares in the next fortnight or so. I hope it's peaceful.
 
Is it just me but I am becoming increasingly irked by the BBC persisting in using the term " Far Right Candidate" when referring to Marine Le Pen.

It's pejorative, factually incorrect, and smacks of bias.
It might be biased, as other politicians don't have their political position constantly repeated, but I think 'far right' is a fairly accurate description. It might not be helpful for her, but it's not pejorative or factually incorrect.
 
Brussels and the EU win in France. Macron is a banker and waves European flags at his rallies. What a difference the few miles of the Channel make
No difference at all the Bankers here were all pro Euro-'cept Nige of course. They were certainly up for any regime that lines their pockets. Called business. Macron would probably be right at home with Mandelson and Blair's cronies.
 
It might be biased, as other politicians don't have their political position constantly repeated, but I think 'far right' is a fairly accurate description. It might not be helpful for her, but it's not pejorative or factually incorrect.
Are you perhaps confusing Marine Le Pen's 'Front National' with 'National Front'?
I would agree 'National Front' is far right, but Marine's Front National most definitely is not.
 
Now about the meteoric rise of Macron.

Who is pulling his strings? How did a classic academic civil servant get boosted, then into an investment bank for business cred and off into a political career that, with no apparent big backers, turned into an "Independent" party that has wiped the floor with the usual suspects?

Some cynics might suspect a hidden hand. Ah, well:


"So how has this apparently isolated and underfunded individual managed all this in such a short time? It is clear that Macron has powerful supporters behind the scenes, and a clue may lie in the little-discussed fact that some years ago he was identified as a member of ‘les Gracques’ — a discreet centre-left pressure group loosely staffed by influential chief executives and civil service mandarins. They are pro-market socialists who long ago gave up on the Socialist party. Many are fellow ‘énarques’ (graduates of ENA) and every step of Macron’s career could have been directed by them. Spotted as a brilliant and charming student, Macron could first have been launched into the prestigious state Finance Inspectorate, then switched into Rothschild to gain business experience (and wealthy support) and then placed like a time bomb in Hollande’s outer office, where he ticked away until he could be moved into the heart of the Valls government. Last August he finally exploded into action at the perfect moment to cause maximum damage to Hollande, Valls and the entire Socialist presidential election campaign. Macron’s rise bears all the hallmarks of a classic ENA undercover operation, a fundamental part of the énarques’ stock-in-trade and one in which the country’s leading bureaucrats are cynically trained."

Who’s behind the mysterious rise of Emmanuel Macron?

Independent my Arrse.
 

Goatman

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Well,well....Ben.....euh....

Donzy (58220) : résultats élection présidentielle 2017


Le Pen took Donzy with 28% of the vote on a 78% turnout.

Donzy has correctly forecast the national result in the last seven Presidential elections.

Um...what time do Ladbrokes open?

(Their website, curiously, is currently down for maintenance :-D )

Use holiday Euros - this time next year they may be a collector's item only ? :rofl::jocolor:

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The BBC's analysis of the FNs presidential candidate:

Marine Le Pen - BBC News

Front National policies
- EU renegotiation with Brussels followed by a referendum

- 15,000 new police and 40,000 new prison places

- 35-hour working week and retirement age fixed at 60

- Legal immigration cut to 10,000 per year

- Automatic expulsion of undocumented immigrants

- Priority for French nationals in social housing

Most noticeably it is on social matters that Marine Le Pen is a million miles from the caricature of the far-right traditionalist.

She refused to join the movement against gay marriage, which brought millions on to the streets in 2013, and she has several gay advisers, notably Florian Philippot. Then again, Jean-Marie's long-standing personal assistant is also a gay man.

And if she is religious in a loose kind of way, she is scathing in her book about literalist interpreters of Catholicism. She is twice divorced and angrily defends women's right to abortion, although she regards it as a sad necessity.
 
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Anti-Globalisation,
Protectionist,
Statist,
Subsidy supporting,

Sounds pretty left of centre to me

French National Front: Far right or hard left? - BBC News
Yes, they do have a socialist objective but aside from their economic policy, their outlook on French society and ideas of what France should look like are extremely conservative and Conservative.

They might not want the EU, but they also don't want certain people living in France depending on what they look like.
 
Now about the meteoric rise of Macron.

Who is pulling his strings? How did a classic academic civil servant get boosted, then into an investment bank for business cred and off into a political career that, with no apparent big backers, turned into an "Independent" party that has wiped the floor with the usual suspects?

Some cynics might suspect a hidden hand. Ah, well:


"So how has this apparently isolated and underfunded individual managed all this in such a short time? It is clear that Macron has powerful supporters behind the scenes, and a clue may lie in the little-discussed fact that some years ago he was identified as a member of ‘les Gracques’ — a discreet centre-left pressure group loosely staffed by influential chief executives and civil service mandarins. They are pro-market socialists who long ago gave up on the Socialist party. Many are fellow ‘énarques’ (graduates of ENA) and every step of Macron’s career could have been directed by them. Spotted as a brilliant and charming student, Macron could first have been launched into the prestigious state Finance Inspectorate, then switched into Rothschild to gain business experience (and wealthy support) and then placed like a time bomb in Hollande’s outer office, where he ticked away until he could be moved into the heart of the Valls government. Last August he finally exploded into action at the perfect moment to cause maximum damage to Hollande, Valls and the entire Socialist presidential election campaign. Macron’s rise bears all the hallmarks of a classic ENA undercover operation, a fundamental part of the énarques’ stock-in-trade and one in which the country’s leading bureaucrats are cynically trained."

Who’s behind the mysterious rise of Emmanuel Macron?

Independent my Arrse.

As per usual wikki entries are a little trite, but Macron is referred to as RC , however the background speaks volumes.
"Political positions
Macron has been described by some observers as a social liberal[22][23][24][25][26] and by others as a social democrat.[27][28][29] During his time in the French Socialist Party, he supported the party's right wing,[30] whose political stance has been associated with "third way" policies advanced by Bill Clinton, Tony Blair and Gerhard Schröder, and whose leading spokesman has been former prime minister Manuel Valls.["

Given his background is Rothschild I'd say look there for the financing
 
Interesting bio of Marine Le Pen just by yer,like

Marine le Pen, L’Etrangere

Le Pen shares neither Jean-Marie’s talent for blustery oratory nor his self-destructive narcissism. But her methodical opportunism and street-smart intuition make her a far more fearsome politician. Le Pen père, whose politics dug into a seam of anti-Semitic, ultra-nationalist, Catholic nativism, sought to provoke. His daughter has greater ambitions: to disinfect a marginalised extremist movement and turn it into a serious party ready to govern. “Her father never wanted power, and never tried to achieve it,” says Sylvain Crépon, a political scientist at the University of Tours, who studies the FN: “He avoided responsibility. She on the other hand is building up a network of elected officials, working her dossiers, recruiting experts: exactly what is needed to win power.”

Source is The Economist. Under current editor, Remain to the bone. They would be aghast at an FN victory.

If the FN take a town called Donzy, sell your Euros!

Donzy – bellwether for French election? | All media content | DW.COM | 13.04.2017

Context...DW is Deutsche Welle .

Deutsche Welle is Germany's international broadcaster, producing TV, Radio and Internet programming for you in 30 languages - wherever you are in the world. ...

Journo is Paris based German with excellent English.

Another source here

Lisa Louis – Journalist in Paris |
Donzy seerms to be a remarkably small sample on which to forecast the overall result.
 
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Yes, they do have a socialist objective but aside from their economic policy, their outlook on French society and ideas of what France should look like are extremely conservative and Conservative.

They might not want the EU, but they also don't want certain people living in France depending on what they look like.
Not 'what they look like' but how they act / behave / integrate. Nothing unreasonable in that sentiment.
 

skid2

LE
Book Reviewer
Given there's about 5m Muslims living in France and so far they've only called for those thousands or so on the watchlist to be scooped or deported. It seems fairly reasonable. For the FN.
 
They might not want the EU, but they also don't want certain people living in France depending on what they look like.
Aye, the sooner they get rid of this type the better France will be.
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Le Pen is only putting on a 'reasonable' face for the electorate.
Her fathers overt racism didn't go down too well Nationally and the FN, like all far right groups have learned to restrain themselves from going too far.
 
On verra, comme ils disent.

Le Pen will say anything reasonable in her quest to get elected. Before the change in policy, the FN was fairly unambiguous as to who they did and didn't want in the country, regardless of behaviour.
 
Le Pen will be seen as too soft for many traditional FN voters. If they were to get voted in, it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to see which way it would go...
 

Goatman

ADC
Book Reviewer
Donzy seerms to have a remarkably small electorate on which to forecast the overall result.
And yet they seem to have done so on the last seven occasions.

Bit like underpopulated Ohio? I'm sure there is a "bellwether" US equivalent.

I don't have any axe to grind,no skin in the fight. Don't own property in France,though spent time there,mostly in the Vendee( Conservative,non metropolitan, catholic,probably pro-Vichy back in the day)

Just wonder why Donzy hasn't had a mention on BBC yet?

Did the voters get it wrong again then?
 
Is it just me but I am becoming increasingly irked by the BBC persisting in using the term " Far Right Candidate" when referring to Marine Le Pen.

It's pejorative, factually incorrect, and smacks of bias.
The BBC, as many will have to the conclusion long ago, has an agenda and it is left-wing and slavishly pro EU.

After 7 years of Conservative governments of a sort, it is a disgrace something has not been done to either curb, close or privatise the BBC.
 

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