From Army to Raf? Experiences good bad? Why?

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Most people who have done it say you go from being a giver to a taker.
 
#6
What was he? SH Force, TCW, TSW...
Tornado force sees guys fecked off regularly. Typhoon will be now as well. Shader, Baltic Air Policing and stuff in Africa.
 
#7
I went to the dark side 37 years ago, so my experience of transfer is no longer relevant.

What I would comment on is that in the Army I only qualified as a competent shot on Shoot to Kill Classification twice in seven years, using the mighty SLR. The first time I shot the weapon in the RAF, they awarded me a Marksman badge. To my credit, I was actually too embarrassed to wear it.
 

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#8
Looking for advise and past experiences for those who have made the move from army to RAF! Good experiences? What's better and why?
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#9
To be fair, they make polyester look almost fashionable.
 
#11
I recently transferred. The Army did a good job of 'losing paperwork' to slow the process down, but other than that it was relatively smooth.

What is better/worse is really down to individual perspective. It's a bit of a culture shock at first, as the Army's way of talking to people can be markedly different to the way the RAF deem as acceptable to talk to people. RAF types seem a bit more sensitive to the more colourful uses of the English language. That said, they place great emphasis on getting the best person for the job regardless of rank (where applicable), so if you have an SAC who is an SME on something, everyone will generally shut up and listen to them. On the flipside, in the Army, in the same circumstances your Lance Corporal tape immediately invalidates whatever contribution you're about to make to the discussion on a specialist bit of kit, and the word of the nearby RTR Captain will be taken as gospel.

You get treated better, and spoken to like a human, which is good. For me, it's all the parts I like about the military, and very few of the bits I don't. There is a much higher percentage of weirdos, though. I include myself wholly in that category. This percentage increases depending on what branch/trade you are. The uniform is a bit shit too. I feel far more at home in PCS than in blues, but you get used to it. If you want to know more about it, feel free to chuck me a PM.

If you've been in the Army for a little while, you'll find it takes quite a while (if at all) to lose the mindset. There are a number of occasions where people faffing has been infuriating, situations where the Army would have just made a decision and got on with it. I still have a sense of humour that can be incompatible at times with some audiences, so the filter is on a lot more.

Other than that mate, it's really good, and transferring was one of my better life choices!
 
#13
We had a guy turn up at our unit one day who`d done the opposite, RAF - Army. The RAF were shedding jobs in the mid 70`s and offered the poor feckers the option of bailing out or transferring to green.
Apart from the fact that he couldn`t march shoot or drink heavily he was an ok guy and he was quickly educated in the latter. He had 17 years in so only did it for the full pension.
He regretted it later as he had a very tasty wife and the vag hungry squaddies were like flies around poo. This led to her being sent back to blighty and him being posted to us at Traz which is when I met him.

Sorry for going off at a tangent but I`m on my second glass of Pino Grigio and it`s swell. :headbang:
 
#14
I went to the dark side 37 years ago, so my experience of transfer is no longer relevant.

What I would comment on is that in the Army I only qualified as a competent shot on Shoot to Kill Classification twice in seven years, using the mighty SLR. The first time I shot the weapon in the RAF, they awarded me a Marksman badge. To my credit, I was actually too embarrassed to wear it.

I got RAF Marksman in about 1985 on .303” Lee-Enfield No. 4 Mk 1* in the ATC and I did wear it.

I asked, tongue in cheek, if I could put it on my sleeve when I joined the Army and the office bod took me seriously, went and found out, and apparantly, yes!


Like you in mirror, I was too embarrassed to wear it.
 
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One legacy of transferring green to blue is that although I served much longer in the RAF than the Army, I was always a soldier in my mind. The values instilled whilst a squaddie never left me. I didn't (and still don't) regret the transfer, as it's put me where I am today, but I was never an "airman".
 
#20
Apparently, Defence Fire Services (or whatever it is called now) are going to be outsourced to Serco.
its been on the cards since 95, on a lot of RAF camps the fire cover was thrown in with everything else that got sold off, the final decision keeps put back, the cynical would say in a desperate bid to make it work this time what ever the cost.
If the money spend over the decades on trying to privatise DFRMO had been spend on DFRMO you could have had fire cover put back on the super garrisons instead of depending on LAFS that are often part time fire stations that are not always on the run, and subject to cutbacks.
The only thing contractors (or not in Carillion's case) want is to make money, and unless the contracts been well wrote ( the MOD history in this speaks for itself) jobs that were done by DFRMO, and all the other "favours" will be offered at a cost.
 

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