French-U.K. Exercise To Bolster Interoperability

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French-U.K. Exercise To Bolster Interoperability
By PIERRE TRAN
Published: 16 Jun 2011 19:36
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PARIS - A large Anglo-French Army exercise, dubbed Flandres 2011, will involve six defense companies as part of a bilateral cooperative effort aimed at boosting interoperability, French Army Gen. Hervé Charpentier said June 16.

EADS Cassidian France, Cassidian UK, MBDA France, MBDA UK, Thales France and Thales UK are the six companies, a spokeswoman for the Direction Générale de l'Armement (DGA) procurement office said.
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The exercise is a first major step toward creating the combined joint expeditionary force set out in the Nov. 2 2010, Lancaster House treaty on Anglo-French defense cooperation, Charpentier said.

The Flandres exercise will run June 22-29, involve 1,150 French troops and 450 British troops, and draw up a first review of the interoperability of battlefield digital systems, Charpentier told journalists. Units of the British 7th armored brigade, "Desert Rats," will work side by side with units from the French 3rd mechanized brigade.

A "magic plug" will be used to connect the separate command-and-control systems of the two armies, Charpentier said, holding up a French-into-British three pin adapter plug.

The lessons learned from the exercise will feed information into the Safir project, in which the DGA and its British counterpart will seek to develop a distributed simulation system in Britain and France, aimed at common training and mission preparation.

The simulation aims to provide realistic and complete training for troops of both countries. Safir seeks to study and validate concepts alongside field exercises.
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May I suggest that they schedule another exercise for October. On the Falkland Islands. They can bring their carrier and a few planes.

No? Didn't think so :)
 

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I hope they don't spend too much on this "magic plug" when MOD owns a perfectly good solution already. Here's hoping the Blandford boys make the right choice and don't get baffled by the big primes' sales pitches.
 
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May I suggest that they schedule another exercise for October. On the Falkland Islands. They can bring their carrier and a few planes.

No? Didn't think so :)
Not likely, the chief of the French Navy has recently said that if the CdG did not return to harbour for some much needed maintenance within a month or so, it would probably not sail again before 2012...but I suppose that if the UK was to support France in case Brazil wanted to recover French Guyana or Venezuela was making a move against some of the French West Indies or Mexico against Clipperton Island, the Marine Nationale would join in the fray to support the RN to defend "Les Malouines"....

;-)
 
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The priority of the Brits on all those exercises has always been to consume as much "Quarante' tro" (the official beer of the 43 Support Bn of the Lille based French Land Command) as possible. The rest always comes second....
 
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The priority of the Brits on all those exercises has always been to consume as much "Quarante' tro" (the official beer of the 43 Support Bn of the Lille based French Land Command) as possible. The rest always comes second....
Bien sur.

Buvons, Rossbiffs
 
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Not likely, the chief of the French Navy has recently said that if the CdG did not return to harbour for some much needed maintenance within a month or so, it would probably not sail again before 2012...but I suppose that if the UK was to support France in case Brazil wanted to recover French Guyana or Venezuela was making a move against some of the French West Indies or Mexico against Clipperton Island, the Marine Nationale would join in the fray to support the RN to defend "Les Malouines"....

;-)
I'm sure we could come to some arrangement. Thinking of developing the relationship, would any of these bits of France be suitable for military hospitals or convalescent homes, or are they all too hot and unhealthy?
 

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Considering the number of bilingual squaddies I have met in both armies, I see a fundamental problem in all this.......

"Look out Pierre incoming, DUCK!"

"Où est le canard?"
 
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I'm sure we could come to some arrangement. Thinking of developing the relationship, would any of these bits of France be suitable for military hospitals or convalescent homes, or are they all too hot and unhealthy?

Remember "Papillon" with Dustin Hoffman ? How do you fancy that for a retirement home ?
 

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Remember "Papillon" with Dustin Hoffman ? How do you fancy that for a retirement home ?
That place is the ******** of the world. I was briefly working at Kourou once for a few weeks, even the frickin' butterflies bite. Look at the allowances ESA and Arianespace pay their staff!
The only colony so shit even the locals don't want it back!
 
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That place is the ******** of the world. I was briefly working at Kourou once for a few weeks, even the frickin' butterflies bite. Look at the allowances ESA and Arianespace pay their staff!
The only colony so shit even the locals don't want it back!
Kourou and Cayenne are nasty but once you are in the jungle the training is good; I just hope the fckuking garimperos will not turn the forest into a cyanide poisoned wasteland with all their illegal gold mining.
 
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Not a wah here, genuine question. More to do with the infantry side of things but Is there a massive difference in TTP's between the two armies when it comes to section, platoon, company etc attacks? Are their sections etc set up in a similar way to ours? Obviously the kit and equipment is totally different I'm just wondering how feasible it would be to just slot say a platoon of our troops into a company of frenchists.
 
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Well…

Being as how the UK has rather cleverly flogged off all its military hospitals to make a few quid…

…and being as how the French have rather sensibly kept theirs and they are proper centres d'excellence.
 
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Not a wah here, genuine question. More to do with the infantry side of things but Is there a massive difference in TTP's between the two armies when it comes to section, platoon, company etc attacks? Are their sections etc set up in a similar way to ours? Obviously the kit and equipment is totally different I'm just wondering how feasible it would be to just slot say a platoon of our troops into a company of frenchists.
Where I work the finals exercises were held in France and based out of École spéciale militaire de Saint-Cyr and we'd have a Plt of French Cadets along with one of their DS. When watching them during in a section attack their "fight through" phase seemed to be to get up and just run at the position firing from the hip, though I don't know if this is standard French procedure or just something they decided to do.

Their rations were good too.
 
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Well…

Being as how the UK has rather cleverly flogged off all its military hospitals to make a few quid…

…and being as how the French have rather sensibly kept theirs and they are proper centres d'excellence.
Can only sing the praises if our military hospitals, they even look after the medical needs of retired military personnel. If it wasn't for Hôpital d' Instruction des Armées my husband would not be walking. Replaced both his hip joints and had him back on his feet in 8 days. A month later he was pain free and very active, only downside is he sets off the body-scanners at airports. Now that is amusing - him dropping his trousers in the middle of the concourse to prove he is not carrying a bomb. Security staff get very embarrassed and apologise profusely!!
 

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