French in Afghanistan: Le Chasseurs Alpins

#1
Just watched a Newsnight clip on the growing role of France in Afghanistan. Heartening to know the French are beginning (albeit tentatively) to step up to the plate. Bienvenue mes amies! link

*edited to make topic title clearer
 
#2
Have you been asleep for the last three years (and beyond)?
 
#3
PartTimePongo said:
Have you been asleep for the last three years (and beyond)?
I know they've been there the last three years the clip even mentions that! Its more about them taking on more engaging roles with the enemy and taking fight to enemy. Perhaps my 'Bienvenue' was too sarcastic and my use of the word 'growing' clouded things! :roll:
 
#5
They have been taking the fight to the enemy for some time. They took a proper bloody slap doing it last year too
 
#6
PartTimePongo said:
They have been taking the fight to the enemy for some time.
Happy to admit ignorance on that part as that was not my impression to date.
 
#7
There is a thread on Arrse somewhere, I'm sure Fantassin will know where it is.
 
#8
Was a good report, the upcoming report about the ruskies looks interesting aswell.

What did that officer have on his head though, was it a beret?
 
#9
PartTimePongo said:
They have been taking the fight to the enemy for some time. They took a proper bloody slap doing it last year too
Sadly the incident last year was more to do with being caught off guard in a relatively peaceful part of the country when compared with the south. I mean that with respect to those that were actually involved as the failures lay in the higher chain of command.

The numbers involved that day and the kit scales had some people comparing it to the sad fate of the RMP's in 2003.

Since then their commanders seem to have let them do what the bods on the ground wanted to be doing from the day they landed.

They're good Soldiers to work with.

Did anybody notice that as soon as shots were fired on the video clip they started making off though :D
 
#10
RIGRAT said:
What did that officer have on his head though, was it a beret?
Well if anyone knows about the beret it must be the french! Though it did remind me of the IDFs headgear.
 
#12
seanbean said:
Deadreckon said:
RIGRAT said:
What did that officer have on his head though, was it a beret?
Well if anyone knows about the beret it must be the french! Though it did remind me of the IDFs headgear.
Somehow, with berets like that, it's hard(er) to take them seriously...
Apparently because they're mountain troops the berets are the size they are so that they can put their feet in them at night to stay warm.

Duty Rumour!
 
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seanbean said:
Deadreckon said:
RIGRAT said:
What did that officer have on his head though, was it a beret?
Well if anyone knows about the beret it must be the french! Though it did remind me of the IDFs headgear.
Somehow, with berets like that, it's hard(er) to take them seriously...
I put my hands up and declare myself I'm a civvy so don't shoot! ...

... But I feel duty bound to inform you that if you thought Col Le Nen's beret was interesting then check out their no. 1 version:
 

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#14
We lost some guys last year, luckily they were paratroopers so our 'Corps' IQ level did not drop too much.

The French have long experience of the Middle East, do not berate them for their non involvement in Iraq. I did Beirut in the eighties, lessons were learnt and brothers lost. First Gulf War we were there, second, hmmm, Bush and Blair !!! no contest.


On a more serious note the guys who died were killed assisting a unit that were pinned down. They were probing a pass in Surobi province and came under attack from approx 100 Taleb' (allegedly!) attacked the boys in front (Regular army).

In the Legion we are specialised Infantry and tend to end up on the sharp end, in this instance some regular paras took the 'Van' and when they were ambushed Legion medics pushed forward to assist their 'frere d'armes'.

"A la Legion, en n' pleut pas, en souviens".
 
#15
Do not knock it, I was Alpine and they are good troops.

It is the equaivalent of the :

Glengarry, Bearskin, various cavalry head gear, slashed peaks, tankies berets down on both sides etc.

We had Green berets like Intel and a nice fetching Kepi Blanc, with a de riguer forragere and red epaulettes (green on partie majeur [top bit]).

Tradition is tradition, you do not want to be chasing these guys when they para sail off a mountain top.
 
#16
You have my humble respect. I was not knocking anyone's soldiery for I haven't even been to basic of any kind yet... But we're all entitled to our opinions on fashion :D
 
#17
The French armed forces have been present in Afghanistan since 2001. So far they have suffered 24 KIAs, as the results of IEDs or direct combat and 3 non combat related death (RTAs).

They operate in the Regional Command Capital with 1,400 troops and on the Pak border in the Kapisa region in the East of Afghanistan with a reinforced battalion of 700 with 3xCaracals and 3xGazelle helo, UAVs, AFVs (AMX 10 RC, VAB, VBL) and heavy mortars (120 mm). With the South, it currently is the hottest part of the country operations and IED wise and the Kapisa Battalion averages several contacts a week.

In addition to that, the French special forces provide the staff of the afghan commando school (jointly with US SF), seven OMLTs that go into action with their kandaks, the staff of the afghan junior staff college, 6 fighters for CAS (Super Etendard, Rafale or Mirage 2000D depending on the rotation), a KC-135 FR and two Transall.

According to a recent article published in Raids magazine, French fighters have delivered over 195 bombs in the past 2 years, 75% of which were in support of OEF and particularly of British troops in contact.

Finally, it’s Chasseurs Alpins not Alpen, and they were the very first troop to wear a beret, in the 19th Century, before any other unit adopted this form of headgear. The shape and form comes shepherd’s berets as they are very useful to protect against the elements. The large beret can be shaped to protect the face from wind, sun, sleet or rain coming from any direction and it is a most treasured piece of uniform amongst the Blue Devils (Les Diables Bleus) the name the Germans gave them during WW1 for their performance on the mountainous Vosges front.
 
#18
Closet_Jibber said:
PartTimePongo said:
They have been taking the fight to the enemy for some time. They took a proper bloody slap doing it last year too
Sadly the incident last year was more to do with being caught off guard in a relatively peaceful part of the country when compared with the south. I
That said, their AO sees them squaring up against Hekmatyar AND Haqqani, not just (so-called) $10-Taliban or Pakistani cannon fodder.
 
#19
Deadreckon said:
Just watched a Newsnight clip on the growing role of France in Afghanistan. Heartening to know the French are beginning (albeit tentatively) to step up to the plate. Bienvenue mes amies! link

*edited to make topic title clearer
and to correct my reference to muesli in the titles. Merci beaucoup fantassin.
 
#20
You are welcome.

Here is a pic of an AMX-10RC in Afghanistan. This one belonged to the FFL 1er REC last Summer; the 4th Chasseurs has taken over from then since.

 

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