My wife is a keen poster on mumsnet, where she is known not as The Fenian Bride but as "Yeah in a minute" - her catch-phrase when handling the Fenianette. She has been following the Gina Ford (there, I've said it! Bring on the lawyers...) stramash at close-hand and has been briefing me in on it. Essentially, as I understand it, some woman what writes books about babies and who therefore feels she is "Sir Oracle and when I ope my lips let no dog bark" has taken exception to debate on her writings amongst the virtually gathered mums. According to TFB/YIAM, the debate has been fair and even with as many pro-Ms Ford as against. However Ms ford has taken severe legal actions against the site, which is apparently well moderated by two ladies of the Good CO/Bad CO nature - presumably Good Mum and Wicked Step Mum? The bottom line is that Ms ford is seeking to have the web-site closed. This seems an abuse of natural justice and seems heavy-handed indeed. The analogy has been used in the past that web-sites and their operators are like pubs and their landlords. On one hand landlords cannot be responsible for everything said, at every table but they should eject and even bar those who act continuously irresponsibly or with malice. Under english law this is not the case, operators are seen as publishers and if defamation is alleged, then the wait of proof lies with the "publisher" not the aggrieved. Blonde bint must be very excited as we speak... I think that the mumsnet crowd seem to be quite responsible and it seems foolish for web-site operators to be dealt with in this way - under English Law - on what is an inter-net site in any case. It isn't as if abusive posts were left to stand and with 10000 a day, that would be no mean feat to clean up daily! How does the world of Arrse feel about this issue of free-speech? NB Please don't tell us how you feel about Gina ford - do that on mumsnet because it looks like they are closing that anyway!!