Free to whoever wants it: Lesotho

#1
Please give a good home to this failed and corrupt state with a population of 1.9 million including 400,000 AIDs orphans. Knackered economy based nowdays mainly on marijuana exports, average life expectancy down to 34 years.

No previous experience of Government required although some sympathy for a constitutional monarchy helpful.

All applications to His Majesty King Letsie III, who would be happy to discuss the enduring benefits of his time spent at Cambridge (Development Studies) and University of London (Agricultural Economics)

Prospective owners should note that this is a landlocked state entirely surrounded by South Africa, who for some strange reason do not want it on their balance sheet.

Anybody hoping to get their stickies on the diamond mining areas should note they are not included in this offer. That is well stitched up already matey and those attempting to do so are likely to meet an extra-judicial sticky end even if you leg it to Switzerland



http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/06/lesotho-independence-south-africa
 
#2
Excellent. Close the borders and when the locals have all eaten each other, fill it with Russian and Thai lovelies, and turn the whole country into a holiday resort/shooting range/knocking shop for the discerning gentleman.
 
#3
Yet more proof that africans aren't able to run a country.

The article says that there are more deaths than births.....natural selection taking place.
 
#4
Pigshyt_Freeman said:
Excellent. Close the borders and when the locals have all eaten each other, fill it with Russian and Thai lovelies, and turn the whole country into a holiday resort/shooting range/knocking shop for the discerning gentleman.
Now that is the best idea I have seen in a long time! :lol:
 
#5
No_Duff said:
Yet more proof that africans aren't able to run a country.
Not true. They are - just very,very badly.
 
#6
No_Duff said:
Yet more proof that africans aren't able to run a country.

The article says that there are more deaths than births.....natural selection taking place.
Empirical proof of Darwins theory?
 
#7
I can see it now, years down the line: the state has been given more money and support than it really needs, up steps an ambitious 'politician' and a campaign for home rule descends into violence and discriminations. The next thing you know the tattie crop fails...
 

RP578

LE
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#8
Didn't South Africa actually invade Lesotho in the 1990s? Maybe they shouldn't have resisted.

The comments about Africans being able to run a country are a bit off. It's a bit like Americans or Japanese pointing to Greece and saying that it's proof that Europeans can't run a government.
 
#9
RP578 said:
The comments about Africans being able to run a country are a bit off. It's a bit like Americans or Japanese pointing to Greece and saying that it's proof that Europeans can't run a government.
Name a successful 'African-led' nation?
 

Sixty

ADC
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#10
Blogg said:
Please give a good home to this failed and corrupt state with a population of 1.9 million including 400,000 AIDs orphans. Knackered economy based nowdays mainly on marijuana exports, average life expectancy down to 34 years.
Glasgow?
 
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stabradop

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#11
pombsen-armchair-warrior said:
RP578 said:
The comments about Africans being able to run a country are a bit off. It's a bit like Americans or Japanese pointing to Greece and saying that it's proof that Europeans can't run a government.
Name a successful 'African-led' nation?
Botswana doesn't do too bad although it does have it's fair share of problems.
 

RP578

LE
Book Reviewer
#12
pombsen-armchair-warrior said:
RP578 said:
The comments about Africans being able to run a country are a bit off. It's a bit like Americans or Japanese pointing to Greece and saying that it's proof that Europeans can't run a government.
Name a successful 'African-led' nation?
Botswana and Namibia to name two off the top of my head.

I just find it incredible that people can make such blanket statements about a huge continent. How many Brits would want to be viewed by the standards of the French or Spanish? And I'd rate west Eurpoe as a lot more closely related socially and culturally than the many African countries are to each other.
 
#13
RP578 said:
pombsen-armchair-warrior said:
RP578 said:
The comments about Africans being able to run a country are a bit off. It's a bit like Americans or Japanese pointing to Greece and saying that it's proof that Europeans can't run a government.
Name a successful 'African-led' nation?
Botswana and Namibia to name two off the top of my head.

I just find it incredible that people can make such blanket statements about a huge continent. How many Brits would want to be viewed by the standards of the French or Spanish? And I'd rate west Eurpoe as a lot more closely related socially and culturally than the many African countries are to each other.
I'd agree about Botswana and Namibia - and SA for that matter. But I could real off a damn site more sub saharan countries that are complete basket cases.

It's a huge continent with a lot of countries, the majority of which have very corrupt and innefective government. So I think the generalisation is valid and warranted.
 
#14
Sixty said:
Blogg said:
Please give a good home to this failed and corrupt state with a population of 1.9 million including 400,000 AIDs orphans. Knackered economy based nowdays mainly on marijuana exports, average life expectancy down to 34 years.
Glasgow?
Haw you yer gettin it, Where did I put my Samurai chib and buckie?
 

RP578

LE
Book Reviewer
#15
Oyibo said:
I'd agree about Botswana and Namibia - and SA for that matter. But I could real off a damn site more sub saharan countries that are complete basket cases.
Yeah, agreed, but the examples you've mentioned above prove that the reasons for the failures has got to be something more than just a simplistic 'Africans can't run countries'.
 
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stabradop

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#16
I would think one reason may well be excessive meddling by the superpowers during the Cold War, who used places like Africa, South America and South East Asia somewhere to fight by proxy.
 
#17
RP578 said:
Oyibo said:
I'd agree about Botswana and Namibia - and SA for that matter. But I could real off a damn site more sub saharan countries that are complete basket cases.
Yeah, agreed, but the examples you've mentioned above prove that the reasons for the failures has got to be something more than just a simplistic 'Africans can't run countries'.
Lack of aspiration, education, morality, innovation, combined with an absolute unwillingness to engage in collective endeavour, are starters for 10.
 
#18
I've just finished reading 'Africa: altered states, ordinary miracles' by Richard Dowden. Refreshingly, it doesn't lay all of the blame at the door of the colonialism and covers many other aspects. Worth a read if you're interested in learning a bit more about Africa. Dowden doesn't write about every single African country, there are 55 or so of them, but covers a geographical spread of the sub-saharan ones. Angola, South Africa, Senegal, Nigeria, Kenya, Sudan, DRC, Zimbabwe, Sierra Leone all get a mention if memory serves.

Anyway, here's the link if you're interested:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/184627155X/?tag=armrumser-21
 
#19
stabradop said:
I would think one reason may well be excessive meddling by the superpowers during the Cold War, who used places like Africa, South America and South East Asia somewhere to fight by proxy.
You can't keep blaming the West.

The africans have had more than enough time and aid to run their countries properly. T
 
#20
RP578 said:
Didn't South Africa actually invade Lesotho in the 1990s? Maybe they shouldn't have resisted.

The comments about Africans being able to run a country are a bit off. It's a bit like Americans or Japanese pointing to Greece and saying that it's proof that Europeans can't run a government.
Errr......
 

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