Free access to Council Leisure facilites

#1
Sir_Sidney_Ruff_Diamond said:
More good news from Bury of all places as featured in the Manchester Evening News yesterday. Are we seeing a significant and positive change in the public perception of the armed forces?

Soldiers get fit for free
Paul Britton
20/11/2007

SOLDIERS can go on exercises they really enjoy - by using a town's sports centres for free. Serving squaddies, sailors and airmen are being offered the chance to work out and swim by Bury council.

The service is to honour the sacrifices made by our forces - and celebrate the town's strong links with them.

Council bosses say the scheme could be extended to include former personnel.

Council leader Bob Bibby said: "Members of the armed services face extraordinary risks for the good of our country and often don't get the recognition they deserve.

"Bury has a proud tradition of being associated with the services and long may that association continue. By taking this step we are doing what we can to show our appreciation and admiration for their bravery, and our gratitude for what they do.

"A lot of people do not acknowledge the work of servicemen and women. My great nephew is going to join the RAF and I am very proud of him. These people give everything for their country while we sit pretty."

A £3.4m project to move the regimental museum of the Lancashire Fusiliers from the Wellington Army barracks to Bury Arts and Craft Centre is underway.

The Lancashire Fusiliers famously won `six Victoria Crosses before breakfast' in the First World War's Gallipoli landings of 1915. The museum's new home - which includes artefacts belonging to Emperor Napoleon - is expected to open within a year.

Lt Col Mike Glover, museum curator, welcomed the free exercise plan.

He said: "This shows the strong links between the services and Bury. The initiative is much appreciated. It acknowledges the sacrifices that today's armed forces make for this country. It is also a good way of keeping fit."

i went to my local leisure centre ID card in hand to request my free membership and entry and was refused. When i asked why the assistant manager told me the offer didnt include TA soldiers and just applied to Regular Servicemen.

I was absolutely furious and subsequently wrote to Councillor Bibby who assured me the offer included ALL servicemen and women. there was no differentiation between Regular and TA. All that was required was the production of a valid ID card. He promised to clarify the rules regarding the offer to the managment of the centre. Soon after i received a call from the manager concerned, offering an abject apology who admitted he had "presumed" the offer didnt include the TA and hadnt actually read the notes that went with it.

This offer will be heavily utilised by the TA in Bury and already is being added to our training programme and is much appreciated by all our lads.

The council has responded to the community's wish to show appreciation for our armed forces and hopefully the idea will be taken up by other councils. In fact why dont you cite Bury's example and write to your local councils an drequest the same? If lowly Bury can do it why cant your councils do the same?
 
#2
Good one, well done Bury!

Well done for sorting out the TA / Regular thing with the clot in the leisure centre.

I was going to ask how he could tell from your ID card that you were in the TA, but then thought, boll#cks, why should you not tell that you were in the TA.

Good news and lets hope that other councils cotton on.
 
#5
Absolutely. Crack on!

msr
 
#6
How can they tell from your ID card that you are TA? Mine doesn't say anything of the sort.
 
#7
There is a Public pool somewhere in the midlands, where those on rehab got verbal abuse for having one lane roped off just for them.
SHAME on them civvies who don't have a clue, or a spine!!
 
#8
Friendly_Fire said:
How can they tell from your ID card that you are TA? Mine doesn't say anything of the sort.
I imagine he told him, as you say there's no difference.


Soon after i received a call from the manager concerned, offering an abject apology who admitted he had "presumed" the offer didnt include the TA and hadnt actually read the notes that went with it.
Was he an ex-reg by any chance? :twisted:
 
#9
i was quite open of my being in the TA a fact i am extremely proud of. He had only "heard about the TA" had no idea in fact which says a lot about how we still come across to the general public.
 
#12
Geordie_Blerk said:
Friendly_Fire said:
How can they tell from your ID card that you are TA? Mine doesn't say anything of the sort.
It's all to do with the actual photograph.

TA photos tend to show a fat person.
Mine doesn't....Mine shows the thin person I used to be......
 
#14
Geordie_Blerk said:
Friendly_Fire said:
How can they tell from your ID card that you are TA? Mine doesn't say anything of the sort.
It's all to do with the actual photograph.

TA photos tend to show a fat person.
And of course there are no fat people in the Regular Army. Why do you come on the TA forum, when its so obvious you hate the TA.

Did you catch your lass getting the good news off a TA bloke, who was skinnier than you. Or was he a blimp and she enjoyed it.

Or was there two of them a fat one (a loggie drv) and skinny one (engineer) and they were doing her together.

Have I gone to far, sorry!
 
#15
Bruce

That was a bit harsh, even Fusilier 50 saw the funny side.

D'you perhaps think maybe its because there are no regular units stationed in Bury, (unless i am wrong) so good chance only TA are going to use the facilities?
 
#16
Crunchie,

If you read some of GBs posts, you will know that he will reply with something equally as harsh.

I have read your posts on another thread, and wonder are you on here to see how the rest of the TA ticks. I agree some TA leave a lot to be desired.
However, a lot including myself, are proud to be in the TA, work hard and are keen to learn. I accept that rank for rank there will always be a gap in knowledge between Reg Vs TA. But that is to be expected.

As an SPSI are you at the stage where you have found the plumbers, joiners and electricians that can work on your house and get paid in MTDs.

Then when it comes to promotions they get it because, they're good lads!

I am not fat (I run on a regular basis), I am not grey ( I shave it off), I am not a tradesman (so cant work on your house)

My sarcasm is belt fed and mounted on a tripod!
 
#17
Bruce

Yes i came on here from frustration (wife has put blockers on the porn sites).

I thought i would look see what the rest of the TA were discussing, to see if i could pick up some tips, unfortunately i started to read the same crap, how hard done to the TA is, second class citizens , how we don't appreciate how much they do for us, how the regs should be more gratefull etc etc

People took everything i said to heart whether it applied to them or not. It would seem the TA who do generally care where the one s who replied, but really shouldn't have, as i said if the cap fits.

I get your point about PSI's/PSAo's using TA to do them favours, it happens, but no i live too far away.

Bruce Willis is a poor choice of name, plays the big action hero, but doesn't do it for real :p
 
#18
Crunchie said:
Bruce

unfortunately i started to read the same crap, how hard done to the TA is, second class citizens , how we don't appreciate how much they do for us, how the regs should be more gratefull etc etc

Lets take your words and substitute regular for TA....

Voila

"....how hard done to the regular forces are, second class citizens, how the UK doesn't appreciate how much they do for the country..."


Which could come from 90% of all threads on Arrse, as well as from CDS, CGS etc etc.....

So is the TA really that different from the regulars in feeling underfunded and under appreciated? I think not.

If you don't like being a PSI, get another job!
 
#19
Crunchie said:
Bruce

Yes i came on here from frustration (wife has put blockers on the porn sites).

I thought i would look see what the rest of the TA were discussing, to see if i could pick up some tips, unfortunately i started to read the same crap, how hard done to the TA is, second class citizens , how we don't appreciate how much they do for us, how the regs should be more gratefull etc etc

People took everything i said to heart whether it applied to them or not. It would seem the TA who do generally care where the one s who replied, but really shouldn't have, as i said if the cap fits.

I get your point about PSI's/PSAo's using TA to do them favours, it happens, but no i live too far away.

Bruce Willis is a poor choice of name, plays the big action hero, but doesn't do it for real :p[/quote]

No, I really am Bruce Willis. And I thought being an SPSI you would be intelligent.
 
#20
BW

I think you may have took the comment on your name the wrong way, the wink was sposed to show it was in humour

Intelligent. sod that, i am thick as a whale omlete, otherwise i would have got a real job and just done the interesting bits in the TA. :wink:

Truly stuffed if that IQ test thing goes ahead......what is an IQ?

Richard, i think most PSI's would rather be back in their own units, less those in their last two years possibly. But i am sure most of us do the best we can.

I also think comparing the regular armys complaints about their medical treatment, equipment,housing ,pay etc is slightly more than TA whinning cause they aren't issued the latest bit of kit for weekend training, or were denied access to free gym facilities.

I appreciate some TA whingin is worthy, medical treatment after ops etc
 

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