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France Recognises Libyan Rebels....

#2
NATO ministers meeting today/tomorrow. They're setting out their stall. NFZ on the way, air surveillance already in place, stand by for NATO becoming the unofficial air wing of the National Libyan Council....rather wide-ranging SEAD missions blasting anything bigger than a rifle.
 
#4
Instead of screaming that they will bomb Libya or create no-fly zones or send in troops / Special Forces, the French, quite sensibly, use Diplomacy to achieve their long-term goals. Not posturing, just getting on with making fecking sure they are in the mix with the probable new power.

Once you've resorted to threats and then violence, you have already given up on diplomacy and have effectively lost. Military action should always be the last and not the first resort .......

We mock the cheese-eating surrender monkeys but they always seem to come up smelling of roses and we always come out of things even less popular than we were before - even when it's hard to imagine us being less popular than before !

D_B
 
#6
Queue 'Good Morning Vietnam' quote:
Cronauer: "We're back. Here's the news. All the news that's new and approved by the U.S. Army, the sweetest-smelling army in the world. (imitates Teletype) Great Britain recognized the island state of Singapore. How do you recognize on island? You go, "exc... Hey, wait. No, don't tell me. Wait, wait, didn't we meet last year at the Feinman bar mitzvah? You look a lot like Hawaii. Didn't we meet last year at the Peninsula Club? No."
 
#10
Not necessarily a good thing, I don`t want to be a French basher, but don't they usually end on the losing side?
Not a huge Frog fan myself, but they have nailed their colours to the mast here. If the 'rebels' now ask France for military aid, will it be forthcoming? If the 'rebels' 'win', guess who will first in the queue for good deals for oil and re-building the place.

Agree the Frogs nearly always lose in wars (and in rugby against England) but they are pretty smart in many other ways.
 

Grumblegrunt

LE
Book Reviewer
#11
with the russians and chinese happy to let libya burn then someone needs to get a grip.

the french do well in africa for the most part and have enough arab speaking legionnaires to make a proper job of it I reckon. plus they have an albeit dodgy carrier they can use.

the french arent afraid to go it alone then reap the benefits, the military want to stop their cuts so will probably have a plan all laid out to intervene and garrison the country for the next 50 years or longer. plus they tend to install a working civil service which can only be good. and it will put berlesconis nose out of joint.

a carrier with support ships, a handfull of jets, few tanks and some troopers - the wagging fingers in parliament would be good. if they still have the reforger plans laid out for when they would sneak back into nato should the ruskies have gotten frisky then it will be pretty easy to send a division I reckon. they did a better job than us in gw1

I'm surprised the americans havent worked out a way to recognise the new govt and make them a member of nato
 
#13
During the course of World War One, eleven percent (11%) of France's entire population were killed or wounded. Eight percent (8%) of Great Britain's population were killed or wounded, and nine percent (9%) of Germany's pre-war population were killed or wounded.

Not many people know that. Not on this site, anyway.
 
#14
During the course of World War One, eleven percent (11%) of France's entire population were killed or wounded. Eight percent (8%) of Great Britain's population were killed or wounded, and nine percent (9%) of Germany's pre-war population were killed or wounded.

Not many people know that. Not on this site, anyway.
If you attack entrenched positions with 'pantalon rouge', no heavy artillery and your whole ethos is to get back a region taken from you in 1870, guess what will happen?
 
#16
Sarkozy to propose air strikes in Libya: source
(AFP) – 1 hour ago

PARIS — French President Nicolas Sarkozy will propose air strikes on Libyan leader Moamer Kadhafi's command headquarters to EU leaders, a source close to discussions told AFP on Thursday.

At an EU summit on the Libyan crisis, he will propose "striking an extremely limited number of points which are the source of the most deadly operations" by forces loyal to Kadhafi, said the source, who asked not to be named.

The three sites being considered are Kadhafi's Bab al-Azizia command headquarters in Tripoli, a military air base in Syrte, east of Tripoli and another in Sebha in the south, the source added.

Sarkozy's office declined to confirm the claim when contacted by AFP.

AFP: Sarkozy to propose air strikes in Libya: source
 

Travelgall

MIA
Kit Reviewer
#17
Err. Haven't we just signed agreements with La France that we'll back em up?
Should save the Harriers from the scrap heap. We can't commit anything else.
 
#18
Sarkozy to propose air strikes in Libya: source
(AFP) – 1 hour ago

PARIS — French President Nicolas Sarkozy will propose air strikes on Libyan leader Moamer Kadhafi's command headquarters to EU leaders, a source close to discussions told AFP on Thursday.

At an EU summit on the Libyan crisis, he will propose "striking an extremely limited number of points which are the source of the most deadly operations" by forces loyal to Kadhafi, said the source, who asked not to be named.

The three sites being considered are Kadhafi's Bab al-Azizia command headquarters in Tripoli, a military air base in Syrte, east of Tripoli and another in Sebha in the south, the source added.

Sarkozy's office declined to confirm the claim when contacted by AFP.

AFP: Sarkozy to propose air strikes in Libya: source
At least they won't get wind of it and move to their alternate locals before the Paveways drill in. Good idea.
 

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