Foxhound, Sunray...What were the others?

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  1. BedIn
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    BedIn LE

    Chaps,

    Can anyone remember the old fixed callsigns? By that I mean the system whereby an Infantry soldier was a "Foxhound" and a commander was a "Sunray". What were the others? And specifically, what was Recce Pl?

    Come on, the old boys.
     
  2. Baldrick66
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    Watchdog = RMP
    Felix = ATO
    Boxwood = NBC Cell
     
  3. firestarter
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    NBC- BOXWOOD
    RCT-PLAYTIME
    RAMC-STARLIGHT
    SIGS-PRONTO
    ENGINEER-HOLDFAST
    ARTILLERY-SHELDRAKE
    ORDNANCE-BLANKET STACKER :D sorry RICKSHAW
    ADJUTANT-SEAGULL
    CAVALRY-IRONSIDE
    QM-MOLAR
    INTELLIGENCE-ACORN
    REME=BLUEBELL
    AVIATION-HAWKEYE
     
  4. Bonzo_Dog
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    Apparently:

    ACORN - Intelligence Staff
    ATOLL -Transport support ops staff
    BASEBALL - Direction / Air Traffic Control
    BLUEBELL - Marine eng/REME/Engineer
    BOXWOOD - NBC Staff
    CRACKER - Locating incl artillery int staff
    CONROD - Direction officer/air defence rep
    CONTRACTOR - Movements
    FELIX - Ammo tech officer
    FIREGUARD - RAF Regiment
    FLOATER - Amphibious ops officer
    FORTUNE - Forward air controller
    FOXHOUND - Infantry
    GLOWWORM - Ground liaison / air liaison officer
    HAWKEYE - Aviation officer
    HOLDFAST - Engineers
    IRONSIDE - Armour
    KESTREL - Infantry ops off.
    KINGFISHER - Air Liaison off.
    MANHOLE - Admin staff
    METEOR - Met forecaster
    MOLAR - Logistics / QM
    MOONBEAM - Chief of Staff
    NOMAD - Navigation
    NUTSHELL - Q Staff
    OFFSET - Offensive support ops rep
    PLAYTIME - Transport
    PRONTO - Signals
    RICKSHAW - Ordnance
    SEAGULL - Air staff (ops)
    SHELDRAKE - Gunnery staff
    SHOTGUN - Armourer
    SPINDLE - Airborne forward air controller
    SPYGLASS - Air recce
    STARLIGHT - Medical
    SUNRAY - OC
    VESTMENT - Air contact officer
    WATCHDOG - Provost
     
  5. chocolate_frog
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    chocolate_frog

    Wasn´t BLUEBELL specifically the Tiffy?

    Also you had SUNRAY MAJOR and SUNRAY MINOR. ic and 2ic respectively.
     
  6. Litotes
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    We all knew who they were.... and so did the Soviets!

    Didn't the R Signals bring in a troop of trainee signallers to monitor the nets of a major BAOR exercise in the late 70s/early 80s with the instructions to work out who was who and their locations?

    And they did! And from that came BATCO and flexible callsigns.

    Litotes
     
  7. blue-sophist
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    Nice to see the old listings ... "Hello Baseball, this is Seagull".
    Some of them were quite embarrassing!
    Still, I have a coffee mug somewhere suitably inscribed ... 8)

    As Litotes implies ... what an utter waste of time, security-wise. However, it served some sort of purpose, otherwise you'd be saying "Hello, Boss" to everyone! :wink:
     
  8. R an R
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    R an R Old-Salt

    The Sigs were still doing comsec monitoring on Ex Eulan Eagle (sp?) in Poland in the 90's...

    A common/comical procedure often heard was commanders trying to get orders across on the net and having difficulty... 'Switch to other means'.... in reality he's just called his oppo on the mobile...genius.
     
  9. chocolate_frog
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    chocolate_frog

    Def EW started officially at 7 Sigs, in ´80s before moving to 14. Later became part of Combined Arms Field Training Group (Germany), eventually under the guise of Comsec TAT. (Training and Advisory Team).

    There was a UK team too, they moved from 14 to warminster I think.

    There used to be a whole library of funnies recorded. Including the "there may be trouble ahead" quote, that replaced the windows start up chimes on the computers! And the old "That is fcuking pathetic, do it again".

    Stories behind where those quotes came from are available on request :D
     
  10. These aren't callsigns, but Appointment Titles.

    Sunray indicated reference to a commander but the level of command was disguised, so the subject could be anyone from a LCpl to a General. (But you'd have to be particularly stupid not to guess to within one or two ranks).

    A callsign was the reference to the radio user, on complex nets prefixed by the Arm Indicator to prevent duplication.

    Then you also had nicknames which were supposed to change daily (or twice-daily, depending on the era).

    So a typical call could be, "Hello India 54, this is India 54A, Relay to Golf 22, Sunray Callsign Tango 2 will meet your Seagull at BREAD BASKET one hour before your Molar arrives, over."

    In my experience, India 54A got lots of requests for relay messages, probably because Puttees and his ACPO were quite good at putting the antennas in the right places. :)
     
  11. brownhat
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    Ironsides - Armour
    Sheldrake - Artillery?
    Starlight-Signals?
    Bluebell - REME.

    Sorry mate,it was along time ago,early 60s in my case.
     
  12. blue-sophist
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    blue-sophist LE Good Egg (charities)

    Just drawn this to attention of MANHOLE.
    She denies ever using that c/s.
    She notes, however, that her AOC used STARLIGHT [independent Command, do WTF you like presumably].
    BASEBALL out.
     
  13. And of course, in Norn Irlan the dreaded "COFFEEPOT"
     
  14. Ranger_Danger
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    Two specific to the Province:

    COFFEEPOT = Female RMP
    GREENFINCH = WUDR

    Incidentally the old US thing about "Six" used to strike all of us as rather odd. On ex in BAOR we sometimes had "Spam Net" courtesy of a couple of American LO's. Our Sunray (A Bde Comd) gave himself the "Handle" of "Bald Eagle Six" for use theron as he was indeed folically challenged and large in the nose :lol:
     
  15. mushroom
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    Mushroom - The watchkeeper - hence my monica on here.

    We used to use 9 (niner) to denote the commander at any level just as today we use 0A.

    Seagull used to be the CSM/Adjt.

    All of the appointment titles referred to something about the owner.

    Sunray - beams of light from our glorious leader
    Boxwood - The coffin you'd get after an NBC attack
    Seagull - shits on you from a great height.