Forward Air Controller

#1
Hi all,

I have been going through my application process and it’s basically come round to the time I make three choices and start my formal interviews.

I already have some choices in mind one of which is OP assistant with the Artillery.
Basically I was drawn to this job because it seemed some what like the Forward Air Control roll I have read about, however I have not found any details of this role as a trade in any of the booklets I have been given by the AFCO.

Is FAC called something else in the Army? (I know the RAF Regiment call them FAC’s) or can anyone tell me anything about this trade, specifically how you go about getting into the job.
At the moment I am assuming its not a job you can go straight into, if that’s the case from what pools do they recruit from?
 
#2
If you are going into the Army as an OP assistant then you will be joining the RA (which makes me think you will be a gunner for quite a while), if you are decent at your job you "could" become a FOO's assistant (Forward Obs Officer). As part of the job you may get a chance to go FAC, these slots are as rare as hens teeth but a great job. They are mostly done in the RA by Officers, however other arms tend to use Cpls and SNCO's so you would need to get promoted before you get the chance anyway!

I would seriously suggest you ask your careers office for the full story or ask the same question on the gunners forum..
 
#3
If you want to become a FAC, then the RA is your best bet as DRA has taken over responsibility for all LAND FAC matters. To correct timex slightly, however, most FACs coming through the system now are RA JNCOs and SNCOs.

RAC FR Regts also have a number of FAC billets, as does the RAF Regt. If being a FAC is your sole aim in joining up, then the RA is your best bet.

In terms of nomenclature, 'FAC' is the Brit term and 'JTAC' is the US term. In both current theatres, however, the term 'JTAC' is used as the overarching CAS TTP document is the US Joint Pub 3-09.3.

If you want to know any more about FACing, then PM me as I do know a little bit.
 
#4
VarSity said:
Hi all,

I have been going through my application process and it’s basically come round to the time I make three choices and start my formal interviews.

I already have some choices in mind one of which is OP assistant with the Artillery.
Basically I was drawn to this job because it seemed some what like the Forward Air Control roll I have read about, however I have not found any details of this role as a trade in any of the booklets I have been given by the AFCO.

Is FAC called something else in the Army? (I know the RAF Regiment call them FAC’s) or can anyone tell me anything about this trade, specifically how you go about getting into the job.
At the moment I am assuming its not a job you can go straight into, if that’s the case from what pools do they recruit from?[/quote]
You ideally need to be in a unit that has Forward Air Controllers on its establishment for a start. Typically,

RM, Formation Recce, Para, RA, RAF Regt, UKSF although members of other arms can also join TACP's dependant on requirement.

You need to be devilishly handsome, well endowed, highly intelligent, calm under immense pressure, fast thinking, rational and have excellent 3D spacial awareness along with the ability to speak clearly and quickly and have the ability to instantly interpret the situation on the ground and condense and extract pertinent information and pass it to the relevant aircraft.

(I made the paragraph above up but it sounds good, although i'm no longer a CR FAC :wink: )

No doubt there will be some current FAC's (tally_target) who will big themselves up on here who could give you details. :wink:

The out of date JFACTSU website may give you a little more info: Link to JFACTSU Website






edited to add devilishly handsome and well endowed above. :wink:
 
#5
OOps stand corrected, lost my CR status about 3 year ago....ABFAC.


edited to add the really really devilishly good looking FAC's..... :wink: :wink:
 
#7
Anyone can apply for tha FAC course, after you have completed it, you with either remain on 'standby' within your unit, or posted to an 'independent FSG' for a 2 year period.
 
#8
Thank you The big un. Right I may be able to help you mate.I hate to say this but the RA are taking over the FAC world.So with that in mind to become a FAC I would recommend either joining the RA or marrying a yank chick and joining the USAF. I am not RA however I have managed to get in fairly high up in the FAC world due to my old boss being posted and my regiment at that time being totally ignorant to fast air.Yes we are a bunch of arrogant gits,this is due to us being the ''hardest bloke on the battlefield''FACT.So if you get upset by people having a problem with you wearing sunglasses and turning up from your hotel in a civvie 4x4 then thinning out when the Air is RTB then FAC is not for you.If you can handle people with no idea of your job and airspace management telling you your job then look elsewhere.

Banter aside.Its a cracking job ,its a hell of a lot of responsibility.You have more firepower at the end of your 152/346/117 than 100 blokes and a BTY of guns.m Just remember ''ARTY FOR SHOW,FAST AIR FOR A PRO''

It will take you at least 7 years get even get a sniff at JFACTSU.

I
 
#9
Also as the big un has already stated you need to be handsome and pretty damn cool. Urm Well I am ugly as feck and hardly slim however when It counts its doing the biz whilst looking cool that counts.
 
#11
That's progress for you.Long ''courses''.In the depths of time(eg in Dhofar 1972-74),it was a one day course,and then you were off killing people,using Strikemasters(great FGA) and some Iranian Phantoms.Happy Days!!
 

Ralf

War Hero
#15
We give um sh!t but some of the best FAC's I've work with are the RAF Regt guys working for a certain unit!! :wink:

And yes it is a cool job......I have delivered for you many-a-time.

You Chill-We Kill :1:
 
#16
tally_target said:
Thank you The big un. Right I may be able to help you mate.I hate to say this but the RA are taking over the FAC world.So with that in mind to become a FAC I would recommend either joining the RA or marrying a yank chick and joining the USAF. I am not RA however I have managed to get in fairly high up in the FAC world due to my old boss being posted and my regiment at that time being totally ignorant to fast air.Yes we are a bunch of arrogant gits,this is due to us being the ''hardest bloke on the battlefield''FACT.So if you get upset by people having a problem with you wearing sunglasses and turning up from your hotel in a civvie 4x4 then thinning out when the Air is RTB then FAC is not for you.If you can handle people with no idea of your job and airspace management telling you your job then look elsewhere.

Banter aside.Its a cracking job ,its a hell of a lot of responsibility.You have more firepower at the end of your 152/346/117 than 100 blokes and a BTY of guns.m Just remember ''ARTY FOR SHOW,FAST AIR FOR A PRO''

It will take you at least 7 years get even get a sniff at JFACTSU.

I
Just got the design for my H11 T-shirt. Sweet work :D
 
#17
There is a certain individual of field rank with a colonial background, ex OC xxx TACP - last seen at Middle Wallop, who could regail you with stories of daring do from Vietnam all the way to Basra.

Opps - that will cost me a round at the next FAC reunion.

Any AbFACs out there - How is the wall holding up?
 
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