Formula 1 - 2021 season

maguire

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VW in the next engine rules 26 IIRC?


I can't seem to see a company as conservative as VW as wanting to get into bed with a company that treated their best partner like shíte.
 

The FIA stewards have handed Red Bull's Max Verstappen a 10-second penalty for his role in the collision with Lewis Hamilton at the Formula 1 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix. Read the full verdict below.​





Full FIA stewards' verdict on Verstappen's Saudi GP F1 penalty





The Stewards, having received a report from the Race Director, summoned (documents 39 & 40) and heard from the drivers and team representatives, have considered the following matter and determine the following:

No / Driver 33 - Max Verstappen

Competitor Red Bull Racing Honda

Time 22:19

Session Race

Fact Car 33 braked in a manner which caused a collision with Car 44 in turn 26.

Offence Breach of Article 2 (e) Chapter IV Appendix L of the FIA International Sporting Code.

Decision 10 second time penalty imposed after the race (10 seconds added to elapsed race time).

2 penalty points (total of 7 for the 12 month period).

Reason The Stewards heard from the driver of Car 33 (Max Verstappen), the driver of car 44 (Lewis Hamilton) and team representative, reviewed the video and telemetry evidence and determined that the driver of Car 33 was predominantly at fault.

At turn 21 the driver of car 33 was given the instruction to give back a position to car 44 and was told by the team to do so “strategically”. Car 33 slowed significantly at turn 26. However, it was obvious that neither driver wanted to take the lead prior to DRS detection line 3.


The driver of Car 33 stated that he was wondering why Car 44 had not overtaken and the driver of Car 44 stated that, not having been aware at that stage that Car 33 was giving the position back, was unaware of the reason Car 33 was slowing. In deciding to penalise the driver of Car 33, the key point for the Stewards was that the driver of Car 33 then braked suddenly (69 bar) and significantly, resulting in 2.4g deceleration. Whilst accepting that the driver of Car 44 could have overtaken Car 33 when that car first slowed, we understand why he (and the driver of Car 33) did not wish to be the first to cross the DRS.

However, the sudden braking by the driver of Car 33 was determined by the Stewards to be erratic and hence the predominant cause of the collision and hence the standard penalty of 10 seconds for this type of incident, is imposed.

Competitors are reminded that they have the right to appeal certain decisions of the Stewards, in accordance with Article 15 of the FIA International Sporting Code and Chapter 4 of the FIA Judicial and Disciplinary Rules, within the applicable time limits.
 

The FIA stewards have handed Red Bull's Max Verstappen a 10-second penalty for his role in the collision with Lewis Hamilton at the Formula 1 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix. Read the full verdict below.​





Full FIA stewards' verdict on Verstappen's Saudi GP F1 penalty' verdict on Verstappen's Saudi GP F1 penalty





The Stewards, having received a report from the Race Director, summoned (documents 39 & 40) and heard from the drivers and team representatives, have considered the following matter and determine the following:

No / Driver 33 - Max Verstappen

Competitor Red Bull Racing Honda

Time 22:19

Session Race

Fact Car 33 braked in a manner which caused a collision with Car 44 in turn 26.

Offence Breach of Article 2 (e) Chapter IV Appendix L of the FIA International Sporting Code.

Decision 10 second time penalty imposed after the race (10 seconds added to elapsed race time).

2 penalty points (total of 7 for the 12 month period).

Reason The Stewards heard from the driver of Car 33 (Max Verstappen), the driver of car 44 (Lewis Hamilton) and team representative, reviewed the video and telemetry evidence and determined that the driver of Car 33 was predominantly at fault.

At turn 21 the driver of car 33 was given the instruction to give back a position to car 44 and was told by the team to do so “strategically”. Car 33 slowed significantly at turn 26. However, it was obvious that neither driver wanted to take the lead prior to DRS detection line 3.


The driver of Car 33 stated that he was wondering why Car 44 had not overtaken and the driver of Car 44 stated that, not having been aware at that stage that Car 33 was giving the position back, was unaware of the reason Car 33 was slowing. In deciding to penalise the driver of Car 33, the key point for the Stewards was that the driver of Car 33 then braked suddenly (69 bar) and significantly, resulting in 2.4g deceleration. Whilst accepting that the driver of Car 44 could have overtaken Car 33 when that car first slowed, we understand why he (and the driver of Car 33) did not wish to be the first to cross the DRS.

However, the sudden braking by the driver of Car 33 was determined by the Stewards to be erratic and hence the predominant cause of the collision and hence the standard penalty of 10 seconds for this type of incident, is imposed.

Competitors are reminded that they have the right to appeal certain decisions of the Stewards, in accordance with Article 15 of the FIA International Sporting Code and Chapter 4 of the FIA Judicial and Disciplinary Rules, within the applicable time limits.

Another piss-poor FIA decision.

Apply the penalty to the next race, not one that's already over.
 
Another piss-poor FIA decision.

Apply the penalty to the next race, not one that's already over.
To do that would signal the death nell for MV's chances of winning the championship. So it would have been appealed and probably won.
 
I've said before, but it astonishes me that Liberty could do a worse job than Bernie at running F1, but this season has been an absolute mockery.

The usage of such an utterly unfit circuit to generate a 'show' at a rich country is only the most egregious example of the management's relentless pursuit of money, no matter how dirty.

Coupled to that is its inability or unwillingness to discipline its drivers and teams in any meaningful way, which has led to the point that we see now, where Max will repeatedly provoke collision rather than accept he has been out fought for a position, and get no real consequences.

No matter how close the title fight is going into the final, this year has not been a good showing for this sport.
 

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Just for the amusement value I'd love to see Crashie trundling round at the back of the pack in a Haas
Tbh I feel the same about Hamilton as well. The admiration I have for both of them as drivers is lost in the gamesmanship, hypocrisy, whining and dangerous behaviour.

If they take each other out next week and have to share the Championship I will laugh like a drain.
 
Tbh I feel the same about Hamilton as well. The admiration I have for both of them as drivers is lost in the gamesmanship, hypocrisy, whining and dangerous behaviour.

If they take each other out next week and have to share the Championship I will laugh like a drain.
If the number of points is the same, priority is given to the driver with more wins. If that is the same it will be decided on the most second places and so on.
Lewis 8
Verstappen 9...
 
The owners of F1 and tge FIA are they seperate entities? Gen question I'm not sure how it works?
FIA governs all motorsport (excpt those pesky nascar and Indycar chaps etc), Formula One operates under their auspices.
So FIA have the final say as to what is right/wrong.
Otherwise the team owners and rights holders of F1 would be the arbiters, which wouldn't be impartial.
 

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