Formula 1 - 2021 season

[bobthebuilder]

And light. Big advantage.

I thought they’d changed the rules so that heavier drivers aren’t penalised? The seats are ballasted to 80kg IIRC. Still doesn’t allow for big units, but the days of drivers starving themselves to hit the weight limit are over.

 

[dingerr]

I thought they’d changed the rules so that heavier drivers aren’t penalised? The seats are ballasted to 80kg IIRC. Still doesn’t allow for big units, but the days of drivers starving themselves to hit the weight limit are over.

You’re probably right, but I don’t know. I was just following the lighter the driver the more ballast required that can be positioned to your advantage.

 

[bobthebuilder]

You’re probably right, but I don’t know. I was just following the lighter the driver the more ballast required that can be positioned to your advantage.

You got me googling.

The seat structure and its anchors are spec parts provided by the FIA and designed so that the whole seat unit can be lifted out with an injured driver in it. The driver and seat are weighed together and the seat is ballasted is added to bring the total to 80kgs.

The car and seat / driver are weighed separately; an underweight car could be ballasted anywhere to bring it up to weight.

I don’t think Nige would be driving these cars!

 

[dingerr]

The 2021 Red Bull

Red Bull reveal their new RB16B car

Red Bull reveal the car they hope will enable them to mount their first Formula One title challenge for eight years.

www.bbc.co.uk

The 2021 Alpha Tauri

Alpha Tauri aim to 'improve further'

Alpha Tauri set target of "running consistently" at the front of the midfield in 2021 as they launch new F1 car.

www.bbc.co.uk

The 2021 Alfa Romeo

Alfa Romeo launch 2021 F1 challenge

The Alfa Romeo team launch their 2021 Formula 1 challenge with the aim of improving on a disappointing season last year.

www.bbc.co.uk

The 2021 McLaren

McLaren 2021 F1 car launch: McLaren unveil Mercedes-engined MCL35M to be piloted by Ricciardo and Norris in 2021

McLaren have become the first F1 team to unveil their 2021 car, whipping the covers of the McLaren MCL35M that will be piloted by the squad’s new driver pairing of Daniel Ricciardo and Lando Norris this season.

www.formula1.com

RB say they’ve squared the issues with the 2020 car’s instability and have more power from the Honda engine in an effort to close the gap to Mercedes. Interestingly Mercedes didn’t make any changes to their 2020 car after August, switching focus entirely to the 2021 car. It’s launched March 5th.

 

[maguire]

RB say they’ve squared the issues with the 2020 car’s instability and have more power from the Honda engine in an effort to close the gap to Mercedes. Interestingly Mercedes didn’t make any changes to their 2020 car after August, switching focus entirely to the 2021 car. It’s launched March 5th.

I'm going to put a crisp 50p piece on RB looking good just long enough on the first friday and saturday for MV to start getting all mouthy...before they get an absolute shoeing by merc.

 

[dingerr]

I'm going to put a crisp 50p piece on RB looking good just long enough on the first friday and saturday for MV to start getting all mouthy...before they get an absolute shoeing by merc.

Merc had had six months longer to finesse the 2021 design. RB were chasing up to the final GP and even then they only won because Merc turned their engines down, LH was not 100% fit and VB is not 100% capable.

 

[Statistics]

I'm hoping to see McLaren really build on last season and push, especially with a Merc PU in. Keen to see also what Stroll's cash has done for Aston Martin (apart from destroy Vettle's hairline....)

 

[dingerr]

There will be no Multi 21 at Aston Martin

“Give way Seb or you’re fired”.

It wouldn’t surprise me if there was a compliance clause in his contract.

 

[bobthebuilder]

Merc had had six months longer to finesse the 2021 design. RB were chasing up to the final GP and even then they only won because Merc turned their engines down, LH was not 100% fit and VB is not 100% capable.

Mercedes approach to the token thing seems a little strange to me. McLaren, for example, tried different components during the last half of 2020 so that they had them in the bank and didn’t need to spend tokens on them this year. They’ve spent both their tokens on the Mercedes engine installation and so have none left for in season development.

Mercedes seem to have done the opposite; not done anything much in the second half of the season, which I believe means they have to spend tokens to introduce stuff this year.

Alfa Romeo have blown both their tokens on the new wing, but they can take non-controlled parts from Ferrari as they are a customer team.

It’s as clear as mud to me. I think we’ll see protests.

 

[Morticiaskeeper]

Merc changed a few things for the last race. The end of season test had to be done with the same spec car.

So, effectively, they did their first 2021 test day

 

[RCT(V)]

As Honda will/must have, already paid for all the significant initial development costs, why can Ilmor not now continue to itself "simply" upgrade and build the existing design of engine, and supply RB, for the remaining season before new regulations (different type of motive power units) are introduced ?!

Published by: AUTOCAR magazine, Issue Dated 24 FEBRUARY 2021 (page 61).

Red Bull gives you power-trains

Red Bull has bought Honda’s F1 power unit project ahead of the Japanese firm quitting the sport at the end of this season.

Red Bull Racing and sister team AlphaTauri will continue to use the hybrid power-trains, which from 2022 will bear Red Bull branding. Consequently, the energy-drinks giant will ramp up investment in its Milton Keynes-based F1 operation.

There is no link to the inter-web . . . you'll have to buy your own copy of the magazine !! .

 

[dingerr]

Mercedes approach to the token thing seems a little strange to me. McLaren, for example, tried different components during the last half of 2020 so that they had them in the bank and didn’t need to spend tokens on them this year. They’ve spent both their tokens on the Mercedes engine installation and so have none left for in season development.

Mercedes seem to have done the opposite; not done anything much in the second half of the season, which I believe means they have to spend tokens to introduce stuff this year.

Alfa Romeo have blown both their tokens on the new wing, but they can take non-controlled parts from Ferrari as they are a customer team.

It’s as clear as mud to me. I think we’ll see protests.

Aero is free.

Six key questions about F1’s new token system answered - The Race

Formula 1 teams will carry over 2020 cars into 2021, governed by a new token system. Scott Mitchell breaks down what that means for teams

the-race.com

 

[bobthebuilder]

Aero is free.

Six key questions about F1’s new token system answered - The Race

Formula 1 teams will carry over 2020 cars into 2021, governed by a new token system. Scott Mitchell breaks down what that means for teams

the-race.com

Yeah, seen that but still confused! Alfa Romeo have stated that they’ve spent their two tokens on the nose. But surely that’s aero?

 

[RCT(V)]

Published by: AUTOCAR magazine, Issue Dated 24 FEBRUARY 2021 (page 61).

Red Bull gives you power-trains

Red Bull has bought Honda’s F1 power unit project ahead of the Japanese firm quitting the sport at the end of this season.

Red Bull Racing and sister team AlphaTauri will continue to use the hybrid power-trains, which from 2022 will bear Red Bull branding. Consequently, the energy-drinks giant will ramp up investment in its Milton Keynes-based F1 operation.

There is no link to the inter-web . . . you'll have to buy your own copy of the magazine !! .

Again from: AUTOCAR magazine, Issue Dated 24 FEBRUARY 2021 (page 61).

. . . . by maintaining the already matured race-winning power-train itself, Red Bull has kept its destiny in its own hands and avoids the team becoming just another customer for Ferrari, Mercedes-AMG or Renault - none of whom really wanted to power one of the strongest racing teams on the grid, anyway.

It's no surprise either that Red Bull was behind the recent decision of the F1 Commission to freeze engine development between 2022 and 2024, ahead of the introduction of an all-new F1 power-train in 2025 . . . it’s the sensible solution that give the likes of Red Bull a competitive chance.

 

[shopgirl]

Yeah, seen that but still confused! Alfa Romeo have stated that they’ve spent their two tokens on the nose. But surely that’s aero?

Cosmetic surgery?

 

[dingerr]

All teams will be looking where they can achieve maximum gains for tokens spent. Mercedes only real issue last year was the reliability of the engine running at full power.

I’m disappointed that F1 has gone in this direction, it was always the ultimate driving formula with fewest restrictions, now it feels innovation and development is being stifled.

 

[maguire]

All teams will be looking where they can achieve maximum gains for tokens spent. Mercedes only real issue last year was the reliability of the engine running at full power.

I’m disappointed that F1 has gone in this direction, it was always the ultimate driving formula with fewest restrictions, now it feels innovation and development is being stifled.

was it an issue? I got the feeling they turned down the wick just to make sure they got a finish. and even then that idiot MV was only seven and eleven seconds ahead of them at the finish.

as far as the ultimate driving formula goes, you could argue the rot set in when they banned the fan car in 78, but for me it really began at the end of 93 when they banned TC and everything else.

 

[dingerr]

was it an issue? I got the feeling they turned down the wick just to make sure they got a finish. and even then that idiot MV was only seven and eleven seconds ahead of them at the finish.

as far as the ultimate driving formula goes, you could argue the rot set in when they banned the fan car in 78, but for me it really began at the end of 93 when they banned TC and everything else.

If you have to turn the wick down and get beaten then it’s definitely an issue that requires improvement.

 

[maguire]

If you have to turn the wick down and get beaten then it’s definitely an issue that requires improvement.

for one race?? after they trounced everyone else all season and had one driver still feeling the effects of the 'rona? if lewis had been on form that last weekend verstappen wouldn't have been on the top step after the chequered flag.
I bet every other team wishes they needed to make those kind of improvements.