Foreign fighters only a tiny part of the rebellion

#1
Makes for disturbing reading, especially the last few paragraphs.

In the eyes of America's generals, Iraq is one great terrorist honeypot.

Volunteers are being drawn to Iraq from across the Islamic world - Saudi Arabia, Syria, North Africa and even from Muslim communities in Britain - by the irresistible scent of "jihad", or holy war, against the Americans.


According to senior US sources, most of the suicide bombers in Iraq are foreign extremists, recruited from jihadist web sites and directed by middlemen through Syria.

They are often forced to blow themselves up as soon as they arrive in Iraq to avoid the risk that they will change their minds.

President George W Bush may have been wrong, even deceitful, when he insinuated before invading Iraq that Saddam Hussein was an ally of Osama bin Laden. But he is on safer ground in saying that Iraq is now the "central front" in the war against Islamist terrorism.

Foreign suicide bombers, such as those masterminded by the Jordanain Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, are believed to be responsible for most of the mass casualty attacks in Iraq.

But, at the same time, senior US military commanders acknowledge the bombers form only a small part of the insurgency.

The real opposition comes from a constellation of former Ba'athists, demobilised ex-soldiers, angry Sunni clans seeking to avenge perceived wrongs committed by US forces and Iraqi "nationalists" who despise the American presence.

"Most of the insurgency comes from Iraqis. Foreigners make up 10 per cent of the insurgents - probably less than that," said one senior American official.

A major difficulty is a lack of detailed intelligence. Another source said: "What we do not know about the insurgency is appalling.

"How are they being financed? What is their logistical support? We don't have the answers."...
Rest of the article can be read Here (c) Telegraph
 
#2
They do have the answers, but they aren't quite ready to release their findings in to the public domain. When the Americans are ready to carry on cleaving their way through the axis of evil they'll reveal all their secrets. When I was over in the sandpit it was obvious that the Moqtada Militia were being funded by the darker side of a neighbouring country. There were also recruiting offices open in certain cities of the same country asking for young wanna be martyrs to come forward and register their names to be sent across the border to get some Jihad action.
 
#3
Foreign fighters are also being drawn from across the Western world, with "soldiers" enlisting at "recruitment offices" in the UK and sent to Iraq, known to the volunteers as "the sandbox". Their spiritual leader is renowned for his emotive speeches containing many promises made to the "volunteers" in the "next world". Too often the "next world" arrives too soon, with redundancy letters and a cr@p new pension or rapid demobilisation with no job.
 
#4
Agent_Smith said:
Foreigners make up 10 per cent of the insurgents - probably less than that,"
How about...
Insurgents make up 0.000000000000000000000000000001 per cent of the Iraqi population.
Funny how bleeding heart, scare-mongering articles forget that bit.
 
#5
I have to say that the Sunni insurgency doesn't really make strategic sense to me. What are they trying to acheive? Surely they must realise that the Shia and Kurds aren't going to meekly submit to Sunni Arab domination once again if the US leaves? More likely they'll turn on and massacre the Sunni arabs. Surely better to negotiate the best possible terms now and accept 'democracy'?
 
#6
AndyPipkin said:
I have to say that the Sunni insurgency doesn't really make strategic sense to me. What are they trying to acheive?
I suppose that they want to end foreign occupation.

Surely they must realise that the Shia and Kurds aren't going to meekly submit to Sunni Arab domination once again if the US leaves?
Situation is not clear. Later or sooner US will leave Iraq (probably in 2010). At that time Sunnis will have very rich experience in fighting. 13-15 y.o. children will be very good soldiers in 2010. Can 5 mln. Sunnis form 100000 army? Easy.

More likely they'll turn on and massacre the Sunni arabs.
I doubt. Sunnis will say in 2010 that namely they made main contributuin in liberation of Iraq form foreign invadors and they have right for for power (at least for first role).

Surely better to negotiate the best possible terms now and accept 'democracy'?
They will not accept 'democracy' and you know it.
 
#7
I'm still not convinced that the penny has dropped with the US that they're not facing an insurgency - they're facing a significant number of separate insurgencies. These disparate groups co-operate sometimes, other times they slot each other.

And then there are the armed groups that have not yet got involved - the Shia groups in the South for instance. The "Iraqi Forces" we see are just another set of armed bodies with complex and shifting patterns of loyalties.

Many sources make statements about the "insurgency" but these often conflict - because the int comes from one group or the other. You can't generalise.

Another driver is the way that many locals feel humiliated by the way the US do business - or maybe they've lost a loved one at a roadblock. It is not a situation that lends itself to simple analysis or straightforward solutions.
 

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