Foreign Family Members and Joining the Intelligence Corps

walrusboy

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I have a British relative who could be interested in joining the British Army. She was born in France but has been living in the UK for 20 years and has a British passport.

Part of her family is French, including a member of the French armed forces.
Is she a dual national - British / French? Or just British?
 
UOTC would be the best way forward.

Can I advise that she considers a role other than linguist/interpreter as you can end up being an assistant to, or following around, senior people all the time. Many other jobs benefit from a second language ability, and it also makes a nice distraction to get posted to something once in a while where you need to work in your second language.

I speak fluent German due to my mother, once I ended up in Germany in a non-linguist role I was more or less kept there. The specialism I worked in was manned by lots of locally employed German civilians and a half dozen British military who could effectively only order a beer in German. I was happy with that as it was using my professional skills, just that instead of working in english I was working in German with my German workforce and external agencies. Because it was known I had native fluency I did get dragged into translating for the occasional Colonel and a Brigadier once in a while, and found that acting as a full-time simultaneous translation conduit was very brain bending.
Interesting insight - on the theme of languages I am in the application process myself as a reserve officer at the moment and very interested to understand how I could contribute as a French speaker. Cannot find information online about this - what sort of opportunities could knowing French present? Are there particular units where language skill would lead to more opportunities for particularly interesting work/deployment etc? Cheers
 
Interesting insight - on the theme of languages I am in the application process myself as a reserve officer at the moment and very interested to understand how I could contribute as a French speaker. Cannot find information online about this - what sort of opportunities could knowing French present? Are there particular units where language skill would lead to more opportunities for particularly interesting work/deployment etc? Cheers
I have no specific information but there are two current trends:
-with BREXIT the UK does not want to lose contact with EU forces and France has the only operationaly experienced and politically deployable force of some importance in Europe (with the UK of course)
-the RAF is already supporting Op Barkhane with 3 Chinooks in Mali and soon the Army will deploy 250 pax to the same country as part of MINUSMA and French will be necessary to communicate both with some of the locals (a lot of Malians don't speak French) and the authorities
 
Interesting insight - on the theme of languages I am in the application process myself as a reserve officer at the moment and very interested to understand how I could contribute as a French speaker. Cannot find information online about this - what sort of opportunities could knowing French present? Are there particular units where language skill would lead to more opportunities for particularly interesting work/deployment etc? Cheers
It would depend on what you are trying to join as (job wise), the unit you go to, your bosses. Importantly once you are in a bit of self PR in a quiet way can get you places.

I was not an interpreter, my mum spoke German to me as a child and I lived in Germany. I actually had the old man teaching me English as I was starting school.

I ended up in a job where the ability to speak German was more than useful to me and my bosses. Word got around so I used to get dicked regularly by senior officers. I actually ended up putting down a bit of an ultimatum and said I wanted the language qualification on my records. I only attended 2 days of the colloquial course, scored 100% and the Education Corps officer tried to have me sent to Beconsfield for the long linguist/interpreter course......my trade would not release me to attend.
 

Glad_its_all_over

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On languages generally, as @Effendi notes, unless you're in some very specific employment niches in the Int Corps, languages are a nice to have, rather than a be all and end all. Interpreting and the like is a huge pain and very, very restrictive and it's not a great idea to end up in that pigeon hole.

If you enlist as a soldier and you have the aptitude - and if you're found suitable for the Corps - you may end up directed into one of the very specific employment niches above. That's a hugely rewarding and interesting career but not necessarily to everyone's taste.

If you're an officer and you pick up language training you might get a language tour where, unless things have changed dramatically, you'll be doing an NCO's job for two or three years.

I found having French and German as well the target language incredibly useful as I kept getting tapped for the interesting liaison slots. I enjoyed them immensely, but, again, it's not for everyone.

With regard to French specifically, the Anglo-French defence partnership is very strong (as @fantassin notes) and is getting ever stronger. This is knack all to do with the EU or Brexit, it's to reinforce the European leg of NATO and provide each nation with support for their own global interests. See here heavy lift for the French in Mali as an example, or a British DD covering the French CVN off Syria. French is and will be amazingly useful here.

Likely opponents in the Francophonie are more likely to speak a local language, Arabic or Berber. Highly unlikely they'd use French, they're mainly the other sort.
 

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