Foreign army medals on British uniform

#1
Just made the move from Aus army to British army, just wondering what the policy is regarding foreign medals being worn in British uniform.
 
#4
Queen's head on them so I can't see why not.
 
#5
Australian Army medals can indeed (and must) be worn (if entitled to them), otherwise you shall be incorrectly dressed. The only difference is that when/if you are awarded a British Army medal these will go in front of your Australian ones (to the right hand side as you look down).

Pretty much exactly what happens to UK soldiers transferring to the Oz army: Oz medals are then mounted in front of the UK ones.
 
#7
JSP 761:

AWARDS AND MEDALS OF COMMONWEALTH COUNTRIES OF WHICH THE SOVEREIGN IS HEAD OF STATE

1006. Appointments in the Orders of Commonwealth countries of which the Sovereign is Head of State are conferred by, or with the authority of, The Sovereign and have similar standing to awards made by The Sovereign as Head of State of the United Kingdom.

1007. Procedures For Obtaining Permission To Wear. Service personnel with previous service in Commonwealth Armed Forces may be granted permission to wear gallantry awards and campaign medals earned during their previous service for any campaign recognised by their government if the medals bear The Queen’s likeness on them or any campaign for which a single international organisation campaign medal was awarded. Individuals are to forward specific cases to DS Sec-Hons via single Service points of contact for assessment on a case by case basis.
Shot answer: Yes, as long as they are campaign or gallantry medals. The Australian Defence Medal, for example, would not be allowed to be worn. They should be worn in the order awarded.
 
#8
This answer not understood, unless this means that an Australian soldier who leaves and joins the British Army, and had been awarded the Australian Defence Force Service Medal, or the National Medal, or the DFSM, or RFD or RFM, or even the old EM or ED or even (just as a hypothetical) the LS &GCM or MSM that has Australia on it, he could not wear them in British army uniform how odd!

The same would apply for medals in the Order of Australia (which are not campaign or gallantry awards) or the Federation Medal, or the medal now awarded to some for humane assistance, (forgot what it is named, but it does exist) cant understand that, all those medals are approved by the Sovereign (The Queen of Australia) before they are announced, so surely the ADM could also be worn, would like to see an authority for the statement that it could not be worn.


JSP 761:



Shot answer: Yes, as long as they are campaign or gallantry medals. The Australian Defence Medal, for example, would not be allowed to be worn. They should be worn in the order awarded.
 
#10
JSP 761:



Shot answer: Yes, as long as they are campaign or gallantry medals. The Australian Defence Medal, for example, would not be allowed to be worn. They should be worn in the order awarded.

Correct. CO 4 KORBR back in the early 90's was an ex-Digger and I'm pretty sure just wore his Vietnam Medal with his Brit ones. Top bloke.
 
#11
This answer not understood, unless this means that an Australian soldier who leaves and joins the British Army, and had been awarded the Australian Defence Force Service Medal, or the National Medal, or the DFSM, or RFD or RFM, or even the old EM or ED or even (just as a hypothetical) the LS &GCM or MSM that has Australia on it, he could not wear them in British army uniform how odd!

The same would apply for medals in the Order of Australia (which are not campaign or gallantry awards) or the Federation Medal, or the medal now awarded to some for humane assistance, (forgot what it is named, but it does exist) cant understand that, all those medals are approved by the Sovereign (The Queen of Australia) before they are announced, so surely the ADM could also be worn, would like to see an authority for the statement that it could not be worn.
It is an interesting state of affairs. As I understand it, the FCO is the responsible Government Department when it comes to the rules on Foreign Awards and sets policy accordingly.

The way I read the JSP, it allows Commonwealth soldiers to wear previously awarded campaign and gallantry medals, but if there is a case to be made for the wearing of the other awards you mention it should be made to DS Sec Hons for approval.

Individual interpretations may vary, of course :)
 

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#13
JSP 761:

AWARDS AND MEDALS OF COMMONWEALTH COUNTRIES OF WHICH THE SOVEREIGN IS HEAD OF STATE

1006. Appointments in the Orders of Commonwealth countries of which the Sovereign is Head of State are conferred by, or with the authority of, The Sovereign and have similar standing to awards made by The Sovereign as Head of State of the United Kingdom.

1007. Procedures For Obtaining Permission To Wear. Service personnel with previous service in Commonwealth Armed Forces may be granted permission to wear gallantry awards and campaign medals earned during their previous service for any campaign recognised by their government if the medals bear The Queen’s likeness on them or any campaign for which a single international organisation campaign medal was awarded. Individuals are to forward specific cases to DS Sec-Hons via single Service points of contact for assessment on a case by case basis.
Shot answer: Yes, as long as they are campaign or gallantry medals. The Australian Defence Medal, for example, would not be allowed to be worn. They should be worn in the order awarded.
FFS. Alan Partridge has given you the definitive answer. Forward your request via the chain of command. As well as telling you what you may wear (all of them) you will be told in what order to wear them in relation to any UK medals you may later earn.

Pace was AP suggests a friend of mine recently asked and was granted permission to wear the Australian Defence Medal which was a back dated award a long time after he left the Oz army.
 
#14
If this chap got the nod for wearing foreign silverware I think you've half a chance.

Rick Jolly - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
watched a documentry about him recently, proper bloke and no mistake.

Hat, coat and gloves off to Mr Jolly, I think.

anyway, back on topic & an Urban myth alert as well. Anyone else heard a tale about a soldier who asked permission to wear his grandads medal on his ginger drinking suit for Rememberance Sunday and was told "yes you may". He prmoptly turned up sporting an Iron Cross.....
 

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#15
watched a documentry about him recently, proper bloke and no mistake.

Hat, coat and gloves off to Mr Jolly, I think.

anyway, back on topic & an Urban myth alert as well. Anyone else heard a tale about a soldier who asked permission to wear his grandads medal on his ginger drinking suit for Rememberance Sunday and was told "yes you may". He prmoptly turned up sporting an Iron Cross.....
Although I believe at least one member of the British Army (RTR I think) was given permission to wear that medal in the Sixties.
 
#16
Although I believe at least one member of the British Army (RTR I think) was given permission to wear that medal in the Sixties.
Having been on parade with "them" in the 70s they all seemed to be wearing sports medals, rather nice gold and glittery ones. I certainly saw no Heidlebergs down the cheek or crosses at the throat!
I don't think even in 1 RTR they would get away with the Iron Cross, the black tank suits were bad enough and they scared the crap out of the locals.
 
#17
Although I believe at least one member of the British Army (RTR I think) was given permission to wear that medal in the Sixties.
Werner Volkner. Ex Waffen SS, PoW in the UK, married a local girl and joined the British Army. Can't recall the unit, but it was RAC - given local permission to wear his German gongs.

One of his sons, Stuart, joined the RAF Regt, and another was RE I think.

He wrote a very good book; "Many Rivers I've Crossed"
 

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#18
watched a documentry about him recently, proper bloke and no mistake.

Hat, coat and gloves off to Mr Jolly, I think.

anyway, back on topic & an Urban myth alert as well. Anyone else heard a tale about a soldier who asked permission to wear his grandads medal on his ginger drinking suit for Rememberance Sunday and was told "yes you may". He prmoptly turned up sporting an Iron Cross.....
The RCT Museum (BUller barracks - now transferred to RLC Museum in Deepcut) had a picture of a chap in No2s with an Iron Cross.

He had been a POW in the war, married local and joined the army. Served IIRC into the 70's. Permission granted as it is a gallantry medal but the swastika had to be removed.
 
#19
as above ,go through your chain of command as they are responsible for entering details of all commonwealth medals you are entitled to on JPA system.
You are entitled to wear ALL medals including ADM issued by the Australian Government on your british uniform (after UK awards) as they have all been approved for wear by HM the Queen.
I have already followed the same path as you intend to and gone through the process so can speak from personal experience.
(You cannot wear your Infantry Combat Badge though)
 
#20
One of our Captains is from that big Australian Island that the Maoris live on. He has three rather fetching medals all of which have a picture of Brenda and he wears them. His Afghanistan medal has a ribbon that almost exactly matches the Regimental TRF colours, which does make it look slightly like a shooting medal.

I'm aware of one poster here, a Brit, who did a year in Australia and deployed on Ops with them (East Timor, RAR?), earned his gong and wears it now that he is back in UK.
 

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