Ford open prison riots

#3
Two thread - same subject. This one two minutes after the one in the Int Cell.

So what? I say.

Criminals are criminals.

Let the filth sleep in trenches - dug by themselves - let the filth pretend that they are brave soldiers on exercise in Northern Germany.

Then make them re-build the place; brick by brick; plumbing by plumbing; electrical bit by electrical bit. When that all falls down - whip them publicly, and make then: make them start again.

When the place has been 're-built' tell the filth that all sentences have been DOUBLED. Doubled from the day the place was re-built.

I bet this pusillanimous government moves them all into warm places with hot meals and televison and visits from their 'loved ones'.
 
#4
Two thread - same subject. This one two minutes after the one in the Int Cell.

So what? I say.

Criminals are criminals.

Let the filth sleep in trenches - dug by themselves - let the filth pretend that they are brave soldiers on exercise in Northern Germany.

Then make them re-build the place; brick by brick; plumbing by plumbing; electrical bit by electrical bit. When that all falls down - whip them publicly, and make then: make them start again.

When the place has been 're-built' tell the filth that all sentences have been DOUBLED. Doubled from the day the place was re-built.

I bet this pusillanimous government moves them all into warm places with hot meals and televison and visits from their 'loved ones'.[/QUOTE]

Was'nt that the idea?

After getting minced on hooch & whatever could be thrown over the fenceline, 2 PO's +4 Aux staff can control inmates against being breathalyse,

BBC News - Ford open prison riot tackled by specialist officers
 

seaweed

LE
Book Reviewer
#5
Wait until they sue the Govt (at our expense) for their lost kit and PTSD. Later Govt will ask the press in to see prestigious replacement gym, snooker hall etc.

No, of course the Home Sec will not resign - remember Michael Howard and his greasy, sick-making 'It is an operational matter.'

Seaweed foams at mouth and is shot with tranquilliser dart.
 
#6
Should have just kept them there and told them "hope it does not rain for you".
 
#7
Prisoners rioting? Hose the feckers down... and keep on hosing until they stop the mucking about.

Towers in each corner of the camp, GPMG in each one, a few buckets full of 50/50 belt.... Should just about sort out the hosing.... survivours, if any get to rebuild the place.
 
#8
Two thread - same subject. This one two minutes after the one in the Int Cell.

So what? I say.

Criminals are criminals.

Let the filth sleep in trenches - dug by themselves - let the filth pretend that they are brave soldiers on exercise in Northern Germany.

Then make them re-build the place; brick by brick; plumbing by plumbing; electrical bit by electrical bit. When that all falls down - whip them publicly, and make then: make them start again.

When the place has been 're-built' tell the filth that all sentences have been DOUBLED. Doubled from the day the place was re-built.

I bet this pusillanimous government moves them all into warm places with hot meals and televison and visits from their 'loved ones'.[/QUOTE]

Was'nt that the idea?

After getting minced on hooch & whatever could be thrown over the fenceline, 2 PO's +4 Aux staff can control inmates against being breathalyse,

BBC News - Ford open prison riot tackled by specialist officers
What a fenceline,I've seen better fences around barracks,that didn't stop clandestine visits,in and out. ;-)

Go to google maps,enter 'Climping,West Sussex', just north of climping is Ford Prison,go into street view,then have a look at the fence,it's on the R/H side.

The whole ******* lot should be transfered to Princetown (Dartmoor),for a bit of rock breaking. 8)
 
#9
There seem to be two problems.

Firstly, open prisons like Ford are being used to hold violent, premium grade criminals instead of the corrupt judges and flashing vicars that they were designed for. This is due to overcrowding in more secure prisons. IIRC, a convicted killer escapes from Ford, on average, once every 12 weeks.

Secondly, security is non existent. The booze problem is not being caused by home brew hooch or cans of Special Brew being chucked over the wall. There is no wall! The lags simply walk out of the prison to the nearest off licence, buy several bottles of spirits with cash they shouldn't have and walk back into prison without being searched.

We're nearly a year into a Tory government. Why is this still happening?
 

jarrod248

LE
Gallery Guru
#10
AM,
I imagine it's still happening as the govt. haven't worked out how to get them released early but appearing to be tough on crime as they said they'd build more prisons and have stiffer sentences. Ken Clarke will be planning of privatising prisons and shutting a few down.
 
#11
Looks like prison overcrowding is a major issue. Prisons should be designed to punish the inmates so they won't wish to return. Not sit around at the taxpayers expense.
 
#12
AM,
I imagine it's still happening as the govt. haven't worked out how to get them released early but appearing to be tough on crime as they said they'd build more prisons and have stiffer sentences. Ken Clarke will be planning of privatising prisons and shutting a few down.
Why don't we have our own Alcatraz in the Channel. Flatholm would do. Call it Limbo island and it could cater for all the illegal immigrants too. Those who have no passport so can't be deported could live on the aptly named Limbo island. Don't need guards, just a patrol boat which is allowed to fire at anything leaving. Food is sent in as and when the inmates relatives buy it, like a leper colony.
 
#14
That woman is the chief inspector of prisons??

The simple solution – just to build more prisons — is superficially attractive, but flawed in practice. At even the most basic level, it is extremely unlikely that new prison building would come with the funding that would be necessary to do effective work with a prison population that could hit 100,000. But in any event, we need to consider carefully where we should be spending any additional money. There are many in prison who should not, or need not, be there – such as the mentally ill, the abused and non-violent women – yet we constantly find, with each succeeding prison population crisis, that the resources and the energy to provide for them outside prison, or to create different kinds of custodial environment, are directed into managing crisis and increasing existing prison spaces.

Texas is an important warning of the consequences of seeing incarceration as an end in itself. That is one message of this lecture. But another is that prisons are fragile and interconnected communities, where the relationship between staff and prisoners, and the culture that then results, are crucial in achieving any and all of our four tests of a healthy prison — safety [prisoners not staff], respect [for prisoners' human dignity], purposeful activity and resettlement. Prisoners are people, not merely offenders; and the turning points in their lives are usually people, not just programmes or plans.
My bold: so it doesn't matter what they've done, how much of a threat to society they are, if they're abused, a nutcase or just a woman who isn't violent then they shouldn't be locked up? Why hasn't this daft bint been replaced yet?

Notice none of the four tests of a healthy prison as she defines them in that article are concerned with levels of inmate violence, risk to staff or number of escapes. Nope, as long as the little darlings feel secure and have their human rights respected it's all good.
 

jarrod248

LE
Gallery Guru
#15
Chief inspectors of prisons have all been barking or the ones i've had anything to do with. We had mentally ill prisoners locked up for weeks on end as they were too dangerous to unlock. It was a pig of a job getting them sectioned off. You can't force them to have medication in prison so they continue to be mad for months on end.
 
#16
I used to live near this "prison". There is a road through the prison, between ford station and towards Littlehampton. It wasn't long ago that I was told, by a prison officer, that the supply of drugs in the prison was better than in the surrounding towns, cheaper too due to the supply outstripping demand! The place is a joke.

I can't find the link to the story, but some prisoners are allowed home for weekends and such like. This is supposed to help integrate them back into society or some other huggy feely crap. The addresses were not checked, and it was only when someone at Ford Prison noticed several prisoners went to the same address did they realise that they were not going home, but to a Brighton knocking shop.

Don't get me started on the number of their customers who absconded (they don't escape, they abscond) We used to get the occasional helicopter overhead looking for them, and the warning to stay indoors, not to approach whoever it was etc etc.
 
#17
As far as the gub'mint is concerned, Crime and Punishment is a novel, not something they want to deal with in the real world.

Of course prisons "don't work" - they are fcuking hotels where the scum have more rights and a better standard of living than many law abiding citizens! If HMP were run correctly they would:

A)Keep scum locked away from real people.

B)Punish them by taking away every right and luxury real people enjoy. They would be provided with only the most basic requirements for life; food and shelter. Any attempt to escape or attack staff would be dealt with using disproportionate force; riot and if you're not shot dead you can look forward to several weeks in the hospital while you recover from multiple broken bones. Without any painkillers.

C)Rehabilitation. This would be achieved by making HMP such a horrific experiance that those who survive will never, ever want to go back. They would rather commit suicide than commit another crime.

But as this country is run by weaklings, cowards and retards, the situation will only get worse.
 
#18
It involved around 40 prisoners wearing balaclavas to protect their identities who smashed windows and activated fire alarms

Surely the fact 40 of the ******* had balaclavas to hand speaks volumes, I'm pretty sure they didn't have them due to the recent spell of bad weather.

Our current prison system is a ******* joke and open prisons obviously take the piss even more so. Making these twats continue to live, eat and sleep in the carnage they have created would be an excellent start towards making them accountable for their actions followed by another five years to reflect on taking the piss out of the system.

******* scum the lot of em but until we have a society (and government) which is actually preparred to punish crime instead of treating the criminals as the victims of their own circumstances we'll keep on going round in ever decreasing circles.
 
#19
The country is far too soft and it will only get worse. There's no incentive for people NOT to commit crime. I'd just kill most of them as they are a drain on resources and society as a whole. We need a hardline government but sadly it won't happen for a long time yet.
 
#20
The country is far too soft and it will only get worse. There's no incentive for people NOT to commit crime. I'd just kill most of them as they are a drain on resources and society as a whole. We need a hardline government but sadly it won't happen for a long time yet.
Unless something so horrific occurs that it causes a sea-change in the way this country is governed. It would have to be something along the lines of a CBRN attack on London; thousands dead, including most of the government. Billions of pounds worth of damage. Hundreds of thousands of people evacuated. Martial law...

A terrible indictment of our society, but the patient is so ill only radical surgery can save him.
 

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