'Forces morale slumps amid cuts' (latest continuous attitude survey)

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  1. Story from UKPA, based on latest continuous attitude survey.

    Forces morale slumps amid cuts

    Morale in the Armed Forces has slumped in the wake of the Government's defence cuts, according to official figures.

    The Ministry of Defence's latest continuous attitude survey showed morale in all three services was down in the two years since the Strategic Defence and Security Review (SDSR) - with the Army particularly hard hit.

    Overall, across the three services, the numbers saying morale was high have fallen from 25% in 2010 to just 15% - a 10-point drop - while those saying that morale was low rose by 17 points from 33% to 50%.

    In the Army, which is losing 20,000 troops, the fall-off was even sharper with those who believed morale was high was down 14 points from 32% to 18%, while those who believed it was low rose 21 points from 24% to 45%.

    Among Army officers the trend was even more marked, with those who rated morale as high dropping 23 points from 30% to just 7% while those who said it was low were up 38 points from 25% to 63% - almost two thirds of all officers.

    Defence Minister Peter Luff acknowledged that the changes in the SDSR had created uncertainty among the forces, but expressed confidence that the mood would begin to pick up over the next two years.

    "While morale on operations remains high, we have had to make tough decisions to get the defence budget back into balance, including reducing the size of our armed forces," he said.

    "Any change like this is bound to create uncertainty however but the resilience of our personnel should not be underestimated. We are nearing the end of a very difficult period in defence and hope to see morale slowly recovering over the next couple of years. Our armed forces remain focused on doing their job, whether it is in Afghanistan or at home in the UK for the Olympics."

    However, shadow defence secretary Jim Murphy said the figures were a "terrible reflection" of the Government's defence policy. "A vital benchmark of success is our forces' morale and yet it has been damaged and dented by David Cameron and (Defence Secretary) Philip Hammond," he said.

    "A botched review and cuts to vital support have made our forces feel undervalued and overstretched. Cutting the Army by 20,000 while we have so many of our forces serving in Afghanistan is a real blow. Tough decisions are necessary but they must be taken with respect not recklessness. The whole country will expect David Cameron to sit up, listen and change course in response to this worrying trend."
  2. It would be interesting to find out what % of the Armed Forces (and the Army in particular) actually complete these surveys. I recall seeing quite a few unopened CAS envelopes dropped into "File 13" in the past. Also, the sheer hypocricy of the labour mouthpiece, Mr Murphy, is breath-taking. I am not doubting the plummet in morale, but I was never a fan of the CAS, which always seemed to produce obvious results, along the lines of "bears shit in the woods". Lies, damned lies and statistics.
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  3. This is hardly a surprise is it? Did the powers that be expect the cuts to raise morale? Let's face it, with most of the Army not knowing if they'll have a job in a year or two, plus the 'more with less' ethos, we're bound to see morale fall.
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  4. This is simply a blip. I'm sure we will see an immediate upward spike in morale when people realise that the new Armed Forces Pension is better than any other Public Service pension.
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  5. As a civilian, I claim no in depth knowledge on this subject. As a person with some sentient function, I exclaim, No shit, Sherlock!
  6. Maybe Prince Harry can use this as leverage when he goes to that interview without coffee
  7. 'Morale' is one of those "how long is a piece of string" questions, but in defence of the AFCAS, asking the same questions on a regular basis allows you to compare the averages from different periods.
  8. Bowmore_Assassin

    Bowmore_Assassin LE Moderator Book Reviewer

    That would be a good spin, 'Sorry Colonel, but I know that morale is low, so as the third in heir to the throne and de facto, quite important in the leadership stakes of the nation, I figured the boys would enjoy seeing me naked with strippers. You know, take their mind off the fact they're being screwed over by the Government. Really, I am just showing the nation and the Army that some of us still work hard and play hard. I am not sure my Grandmother will agree with my rationale but I know you will; you were once a subbie and young ! Mind you, it's perhaps just as well they did not photo me getting my knob in....'

    Sent from my iPhone using ARRSE app
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  9. Stonker

    Stonker On ROPs

    20% cuts, redundancies as a 'thank you' for all the hard work in AFG, and you think this survey - which uses a methodology which is widely accepted as scientifically reliable, by independent reviewers, IIRC - is getting the morale thing wrong?

    Hope you don't mind, but I think you need to learn to explore beyond your comfy little bubble a bit more vigorously.
  10. Maybe those photos are just the tip of the ice berg, perhaps they are videos he's waiting to release, he's probably wondering if he can list them on eBay and deciding on a title for the feature film
  11. No one in my coy has, and most of the blokes don't even discuss the cuts or the SDSR in general (I don't know about the Toms in other units but no one here thinks beyond the up coming weekend's hedonism / next exercise / leave block).
  12. I'm only surprised that it took a CAS to bring this to light.

    I bumped into my old OC at last year's Army Navy and his comments about the job in general was "fcukin' shit."
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  13. Interesting. In the REME, I never saw one person discard the opportunity to say exactly what they thought of the Army at that time.
  14. Army spokesman, Haydn Uff, responded:

    "**** 'em"
  15. I am bloody amazed that any one actually bothered to fill in the survey. Anyone who says HMF is all a bundle of joys and candy bars comes in the congenital idiot category, and I rather thought that group had been binned from the application process!